Hello Dallas!   
      
   Sunday June 10 2018 10:49, you wrote to me:   
      
    > Hi Vince -- on Jun 10 2018 at 14:06, you wrote:   
      
      
    >>> I noticed that -- the template files are missing, too!!   
      
    VC>> Nope they are there as templates.zip or similar but are there in   
    VC>> the refresh.   
      
    > There was a templates.zip, but it was empty. No matter, now I've got   
    > 5.13 running again.   
      
      
   I am a little puzzled about not finding any as here is my unpacks :   
      
   --   
   -bash-4.3$ unrar e ~/ftp/pub/ifdc/filemgr/FM80316F.RAR   
   UNRAR 5.50 beta 6 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2017 Alexander Roshal   
      
   Extracting from /home/mbse/ftp/pub/ifdc/filemgr/FM80316F.RAR   
      
   FileMgr, The Ultimate BBS File Processor GPL version 0.80.115   
   and dated 16 March 2008 at 15:00. Runs in Dos, a dos box under   
   Linux or OS/2 or command prompt under Windows.   
      
   Please read all readme and change.log files before installing   
   in your BBS system. Unarchive in a temp directory ONLY.   
      
   This file contains the executables and documentation.   
   Some docs are in Adobe acrobat format. Acrobat is a free download   
   from www.adobe.com.   
      
   See FMSRCnnn.zip or .rar for the sources.   
      
   Sealed with AV in name of Air Applewood BBS to confirm that is   
   an original archive.   
      
      
   Extracting  banner4.txt                                               OK   
   Extracting  DELETE.FM                                                 OK   
   Extracting  FILEMGR.EXE                                               OK   
   Extracting  FILEMGR.HLP                                               OK   
   Extracting  FILEMGR.OVR                                               OK   
   Extracting  FMBILL.EXE                                                OK   
   Extracting  FMCONV.EXE                                                OK   
   Extracting  FMDESC.EXE                                                OK   
   Extracting  FMSETUP.EXE                                               OK   
   Extracting  FMSETUP.OVR                                               OK   
   Extracting  STRUCTS.PAS                                               OK   
   Extracting  template.zip                                              OK   
   Extracting  FILE_ID.DIZ                                               OK   
   All OK   
   -bash-4.3$ unzip -l template.zip   
   Archive:  template.zip   
     Length      Date    Time    Name   
   ---------  ---------- -----   ----   
         103  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/area.tpl   
          79  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/bfooter.tpl   
          40  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/bheader.tpl   
         136  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/blockftr.tpl   
         103  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/blockhdr.tpl   
         135  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/blokftr2.tpl   
          88  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/blokhdr2.tpl   
          82  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/entry.tpl   
         311  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/ffheader.tpl   
          35  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/filebbs2.tpl   
          81  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/filefind.tpl   
          61  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/filesbbs.tpl   
         109  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/footer.tpl   
         109  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/group.tpl   
          82  03-16-2008 19:54   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/header.tpl   
        5639  03-16-2008 17:27   ../../../FileMgr/test/tpl/template.doc   
   ---------                     -------   
        7193                     16 files   
      
   --   
      
   Arr, just spotted a wee problem i.e., path for them so you will need to    
   extract   
   without path i.e., unzip -j templates.zip and this gives me :   
      
   --   
   bash-4.3$ unzip -j template.zip   
   Archive:  template.zip   
     inflating: area.tpl   
     inflating: bfooter.tpl   
    extracting: bheader.tpl   
     inflating: blockftr.tpl   
     inflating: blockhdr.tpl   
     inflating: blokftr2.tpl   
     inflating: blokhdr2.tpl   
     inflating: entry.tpl   
     inflating: ffheader.tpl   
     inflating: filebbs2.tpl   
     inflating: filefind.tpl   
     inflating: filesbbs.tpl   
     inflating: footer.tpl   
     inflating: group.tpl   
     inflating: header.tpl   
     inflating: template.doc   
   --   
      
   Does depend on what archiver you are using though - another refresh needed.   
      
   Being hatched as I type.   
      
      
      
   Vince   
      
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