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     Re: Re: Weakling   
     By: Bryan Handfield to Angela Walker on Sat Oct 31 2020 10:55 pm   
      
    > -=[ On 10-31-20 19:12, Angela Walker wrote to Dennis Katsonis below: ]=-   
    > -=[ Re: Re: Weakling ]=-   
    >    
    > Hi Angela Walker!   
    >    
    >  AW> in the middle of a pandemic, not to mention women's rights. Roe vs.   
    >  AW> Wade? Gone, just a matter of time. Regardless of how you feel about   
    >  AW> abortion, I submit that taking away the right of every woman to make   
    >  AW> that decision for herself after decades of the status quo represents a   
    > What about the rights of the unborn as a human being?   
    >    
    > Cheers,   
    >      Bryan   
    >      bhandfield(at)me(dot)com   
    >    
    > ... Bart, stop pestering Satan!!!   
   I do not personally believe the rights of the unborn baby should ever usurp the   
   right of the grown human being to make that choice for herself.  I understand   
   that dives into a much deeper philosophical realm wherein you and I have   
   different beliefs as well - for instance I believe in reinacrnation so by my   
   belief system the baby's soul would simply exit the body and ultimately be   
   reborn somewhere else.  But that's a can of worms I don't mean to open - let's   
   just agree to disagree on all of that and limit the scope of the dispute to the   
   applicable law.  Here's what clinches it for me: There are lots of people who   
   feel one way and think abortion should be absolutely illegal, often even in   
   cases of rape, incest, even when the mother's life is put in immediate danger   
   and the only way to save her is to abort the fetus.  Then you have a lot of   
   people who feel, like I do, that each individual should be given the freedom to   
   weigh the decision for themselves and consider their own circumstances.  One   
   side of that argument wants to force their beliefs onto everyone else, whereas   
   the other side wants to allow for freedom of choice.  That makes it clear to me   
   which side the law should take.  We're talking about what's legal here, not   
   what's moral.  Abortion may be immoral but so is infidelity and it's not   
   illegal.  Saying hateful things to someone to make them feel bad is immoral but   
   not illegal - unless you threaten violence, etc.  This is one of those   
   situations, again IMO, where the law should allow more freedom than does   
   morality.  Folks who believe abortion is wrong in any context have every right   
   to teach their children this lesson, live by their own moral code, etc. but the   
   law should allow for multiple points of view to exist and be legal.   
      
   Hey, I know that you and I are never going to agree on this and if it makes you   
   feel any better I'm not advocating abortion.  I believe it should be reserved   
   as a last-resort option for extreme situations myself but I really don't like   
   government legislating away an individual freedom - any freedom.  For instance   
   I don't approve of or advocate recreational drug use, but I do believe we   
   should stop prosecuting all non-violent drug crimes and eliminate the   
   whole idea of a "possession charge" entirely.  We should redirect all that   
   funding from the war on drugs to education aimed at abuse prevention and   
   efforts to help people who have a problem.  We should also examine people's   
   motivation for wanting to use drugs but that's a much longer-term set of   
   changes to make over the long run - decades most likely.  Again, I don't think   
   that people should use recreational drugs, but they should have the personal   
   freedom to make that decision for themselves - and to get help without   
   consequence or shame if they make a mistake.  I'm getting off on a tangent now   
   so I'll cut myself off now, before I upset more people :)   
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