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   PID: Synchronet 3.16a-Win32  Nov 27 2014 MSC 1800   
   TID: SBBSecho 2.27-Win32 r1.256 Nov 27 2014 MSC 1800   
     Re: Re: Weakling   
     By: Dennis Katsonis to Angela Walker on Mon Oct 19 2020 06:25 am   
      
    > -=> Angela Walker wrote to Dennis Katsonis <=-   
    >    
    >  AW>   Re: Re: Weakling   
    >  AW>   By: Dennis Katsonis to Lee Lofaso on Tue Sep 08 2020 09:16 am   
    >    
    >  AW> I can list a few ways that Trump being president has tangibly and   
    >  AW> negatively affected my life in a real way!   
    >  AW> Under Obama, LGBT individuals such as myself had federal legal   
    >  AW> protections against discrimination. LGBT students could feel safe in   
    >  AW> public - they could use public restrooms without fear of legal action   
    >  AW> being taken against them - something that should be a basic human right   
    >  AW> for all Americans. LGBT employees had federal non-discrimination   
    >  AW> protections. Transgender persons could participate in the Armed   
    >  AW> Services.  I could go on. Thanks to Trump, all of that has been   
    >  AW> reversed and then some. He's actually gone as far as to legally   
    >  AW> "disappear" transgender people by redefining gender in the legal   
    >  AW> context as an un-changeable binary determined by a doctor's glance at   
    >  AW> birth that can never be changed or modified on any legal documents   
    >  AW> recognized by his government.  While I haven't been arrested for using   
    >  AW> a public restroom nor have I been discharged from service or fired   
    >  AW> because of who I am, knowing that those are the rules of the land has   
    >  AW> profoundly affected my psyche and self-esteem. I feel vastly less-safe   
    >  AW> as an LGBT American than I did under Obama - I feel at-risk when I go   
    >  AW> to work, when I go shopping, when I pay my bills, when I fill out   
    >  AW> forms, and very much so when I see a doctor or seek any sort of medical   
    >  AW> care. When Trump was elected, I knew it would be bad for LGBT Americans   
    >  AW> but he's done more to hurt us than I'd even imagined. His words when he   
    >  AW> asked the Supreme Court to rule that LGBT Americans have no legal   
    >  AW> protections against discrimination - and lost the case - "It's   
    >  AW> unfortunate. It's very unfortunate." So I have to live with knowing   
    >  AW> that the leader of my country believes it's very unfortunate that he   
    >  AW> couldn't officially legalize discrimination against people like myself.   
    >  AW> ... and now that he's installed his pet, Amy, into the Supreme Court,   
    >  AW> that decision is likely to be overturned - along with dismantling the   
    >  AW> Affordable Care Act that protects 30 million Americans with health care   
    >  AW> in the middle of a pandemic, not to mention women's rights. Roe vs.   
    >  AW> Wade? Gone, just a matter of time. Regardless of how you feel about   
    >  AW> abortion, I submit that taking away the right of every woman to make   
    >  AW> that decision for herself after decades of the status quo represents a   
    >  AW> monumental step backwards in terms of personal rights and freedoms -   
    >  AW> well, rights not pertaining to straight white men, that is. But I'm   
    >  AW> getting off-topic so I'll return to my premise and conclude that yes,   
    >  AW> my life is much worse than it was when Obama was in charge. I think   
    >  AW> that actually applies to the vast majority of Americans, as COVID does   
    >  AW> not represent an anomoly - it's not an external event that has nothing   
    >  AW> to do with Trump's leadership as he'd like you to think - it's a direct   
    >  AW> result of his empowerment! Consider this: China tried to hide the SARS   
    >  AW> outbreak of 2008 just as they tried t hide COVID but American agents   
    >  AW> and the CDC played a major role in exposing the truth in time to stem   
    >  AW> the spread. However in 2019, the president of the United States was   
    >  AW> praising China's leadership and even in early 2020 he was on TV   
    >  AW> commending China's efforts in dealing with the virus - assuring us it   
    >  AW> was not threat to America.  Forget everything he's done to hamper the   
    >  AW> efforts to get the virus under control since it exploded in America...   
    >  AW> I submit that it's the fault of himself and his global influence that   
    >  AW> this thing ever got out of control worldwide in the first place! He's   
    >  AW> done a 180 on China by calling it the "China virus," well I say we call   
    >  AW> it the "Trump virus!"  To that end, Trump has made all of our lives SO   
    >  AW> much worse, worldwide! --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32   
    >    
    > I worry greatly that people will use their feelings to impact others.   
    > We see people being cancelled, being fired because of how people "feel".   
    > I have a real problem with this.  I have a problem with action taken   
    > against others because some people think that this or that could happen.   
    >    
    > That is why I asked for tangible and real outcomes.  Because its easy to   
    > say that this or that changes makes me feel bad.  But does it impact   
    > you?  Is there anything more to it than you fear and how you feel about   
    > it?   
    >    
    >    
    > If as a result of Trump, you were fired, denied a job, attacked, lost   
    > out financially, whatever, I can understand.  That is what I wanted to   
    > know, and why I asked.   
    >    
    > You yourself admitted that these things you fear haven't actually   
    > happened.   
    >    
    >    
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   These things HAVE happened to people I know and care about.  If I needed to   
   look for a job right now it would likely affect me too.  Here's another one, to   
   expand on Trump's legal redefinition of gender: I cannot update my driver's   
   license with my new address nor can I apply for an enhanced driver's license   
   because under the current federal regulations, it would revert to my old   
   identity - which would be very inaccurate and confusing to people looking to   
   match the person in front of them with the person listed on the ID, not to   
   mention it would be emotionally devastating for me.  If Trump had won the   
   election, I wouldn't be able to wait it out either because my license would   
   need to be renewed within his second term.   
      
   Also, these are legitimate things for someone like myself to fear!  Asking   
   someone to discount this level of institutionalized discrimination just because   
   they haven't ye personally experienced a specific scenario, in my humble   
   opinion, is not a fair point to make.  Any decent human being should be   
   concerned with institutionalized discrimination, racism, division of the   
   populus, etc.  Would you say to a black man, in this day and age, "you   
   shouldn't worry about systemic racism because you personally have been lucky   
   enough to avoid it?"  It's the same thing - and people's feelings are valid.    
   People's feelings are important.  It's natural to "feel upset" if your   
   government creates laws that discriminate against you for who you are.  Feeling   
   angry about that is the right way to feel - and taking action to combat that   
   disrimination is also the right thing to do.  "Liberty and Justice For All."   
   --- SBBSecho 2.27-Win32   
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