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|    Lee Lofaso to Dennis Katsonis    |
|    Weakling    |
|    03 Sep 20 20:12:27    |
      MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5f5123f4       REPLY: 3946.fido_allpolit@1:124/5016 23b5a3a9       PID: JamNNTPd/OS2 1.3 20200711       TID: GE/2 1.2       CHRS: CP437 2       TZUTC: 0300       Hello Dennis,              >>LL> Donald J. Trump. The man with no balls.       >>       >>LL>"He may believe mouthing the words law and order makes him strong,       >>LL>but his failure to call on his own supporters to stop acting as an       >>LL>armed militia in this country shows you how weak he is."       >>LL>~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020       >>       >>Do you want Trump to use a stronger police force then?       >       >LL> I want Trump to do his fucking job!       >       >LL> "The job of a president is to tell it straight from the shoulder, tell       >LL> the truth, to be candid, to face facts, to lead, not to insight. That's       >LL> why I'm speaking to you today. The incumbant president is incapable of       >LL> telling us the truth, incapable of facing the facts and incapable of       >LL> healing. He doesn't want to shed light, he wants to generate heat and       >LL> he's stroking violence in our cities.       >       >LL> "This is a tragic fact of the matter, how he's dealing with this       >LL> perilous hour in our nation. And now we have to stand against violence       >LL> in every form it takes. Violence we've seen again and again and again,       >LL> of unwarranted police shooting, excessive force, seven bullets in the       >LL> back of Jacob Blake. Knee on the neck of George Floyd, killing of       >LL> Breonna Taylor in her own apartment, violence of extremists and       >LL> opportunists, right wing militias... And to derail any hope and support       >LL> for progress, the senseless violence of looting and burning and       >LL> destruction of property. I want to make it absolutely clear, so I'm       >LL> going to be very clear about all of this, rioting is not protesting.       >LL> Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of       >LL> this is protesting. It's lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who       >LL> do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will       >LL> only bring destruction. It's wrong in every way. It divides instead       >LL> of unites, destroys businesses, only hurts the working families that       >LL> serve the community. It makes things worse across the board, not       >LL> better."       >LL> ~ Joe Biden, 8/31/2020       >       >>If Trump was to come down harder on the rioters, then the Democrats would       >>say he's a fascist for doing so. Is he supposed to just people people       >>riot, loot, murder and bully innocent people?       >       >LL>Joe Biden has condemned *all* acts of violence. It is time for       >LL>Donald Trump to do the same.       >       >>His "supporters" are defending themselves.       >       >LL>Two rights do not make a wrong. As Joe Biden noted so clearly       >LL>in his message. Do pay attention.              Two wrongs do not make a right. Caught you sleeping. :)              >>I've seen too many videos of "protestors" attacking and accosting people.       >>Going up to people who are just out for a meal or a drink, and DEMANDING       >>they show fealty to your beliefs is not acceptable.       >       >LL>Worked for Bull Connor. And his dogs. What we have today is a       >LL>new George Wallace. Only this one is in the White HOuse, rather       >LL>than the Alabama governor's mansion.              >What we are seeing in the USA is the emergence of a new, totalitarian belief       > system, disguisnig itself as being for justice.              This is nothing new. George Wallace did the same in Alabama.       Lester Maddox did the same in Georgia. Other governors did the       same in other states.              There were times when fascism did occur on a national level in       this country. But nothing on the level as it is today.              >IT is a time old pattern, where the new moral order proclaims itself as       > being for justice, fairness, while it bullies people into submission.       > Cancel culture is the most evident manifestation of this insidious       > ideology.              There is nothing moral about fascism. It can be disguised in many       ways, even with a smile. But there is nothing moral about it.              >Rioting is not protesting, I agree, but Biden's missing the point here.              Rioting is an act of violencce. Biden condemned all acts of violence.       That includes rioting. Do pay attention.              >They are NOT trying to protest.              And Biden condemned all who committed acts of violence. Including       those who pretend to protest by commmitting acts of violence. You       really do need to pay attention.              >They are trying to exercise power over others.              By committing acts of violence, which Biden condemned.       It really isn't that hard to understand. Do pay attention       to what the man said.              >The Democrats will never admit this,              Biden did. Quite loudly. For all to hear. But you weren't listening.       Or bothering to pay attention.              >because too many in the party (perhaps not Biden, I'll give him the benefit       > of the doubt),              What doubt? I quoted his own words, verboten. Nobody in his party       disagreed with anything he said. And many Republicans and Independents       also agreed with his comments. Especially his comments condemning all       acts of violence.              >don't have an issue with this new emerging cultural fascism.              The vast majority of people in this country have a real issue       with Trump's fascist ideology, and want him and his cronies to go       away. Problem is, after he loses the election (assuming there is       an election) his army of Trumpers might decide to burn the entire       country, proclaiming "Trump is always right!"              >This isn't about George Floyd. This is about an ideology that has been       > percolating for years, and is now seizing this opportunity to suppress and       > bully.              Trump is not the cause, but the symptom. Biden is the anti-Trump,       but not the solution to all this country's problems.              It will take more, much more, to cure America of its sickness.              --Lee              --        Because not everyone likes licorice       --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb        * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 14/0 80/1 88/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 120/340 123/131       SEEN-BY: 154/10 203/0 218/700 221/0 1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/101       SEEN-BY: 229/424 426 700 1016 1017 240/1120 5832 249/206 317 261/38       SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 282/464 1038 288/100 292/854 8125 301/1 113       SEEN-BY: 310/31 317/3 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 712/848 770/1       SEEN-BY: 801/188 197 202 900/100 106 108 902/6 7 25 26 27 920/1 2452/250       SEEN-BY: 5058/104       PATH: 221/360 1 280/464 292/854 301/1 80/1 902/27 90/1 229/426           |
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