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|    Dale Shipp to Gregory Deyss    |
|    Re: It is what it is    |
|    12 Aug 20 02:59:02    |
      REPLY: 1:267/150 8e90acf9       MSGID: 1:261/1466.0 5f339336        -=> On 08-11-20 11:55, Gregory Deyss <=-        -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about It is what it is <=-               GD> Getting information from Trump is far better then getting the        GD> narrative twisted from the likes of CNN or MSNBC any day of the week.                You need to develop some sources that tell the truth. It is well known       that is not Trump.               DS> How could the officers know anything about his history? To say that he        DS> deserved to die because "He was not a good man" is tandamont to issuing a        DS> vendetta against those who have made mistakes in their life.               GD> You are yet again attempting to twist this.         GD> The definition of tandamont; is as good as.         GD> There is no reference to the word vendetta.               Your definition is correct for the word that I meant to type,       tantamount, and I meant the usage of the term vendetta. You seem to be       justifying punishing people for what they might have done in the past.                DS> GD> Good men, do not pass off fake $20.00 bills for         DS> GD> real ones         DS> It is not proven that he knows that he did that.                GD> It is why the cops arrived on the scene.              The cops arrived at the scene because the clerks in the store said that       they had been given a fake $20 bill. No one ever attempted to determine       whether or not Floyd had known that the bill was fake.               GD> If George Floyd simply obeyed all of the officers commands, he would        GD> be alive today, but he calmed he was claustrophobic which is why the        GD> police had trouble getting into the back of the police car.                GD> From my observation he appeared to be cramped up within that vehicle        GD> that he was driving, he was flipping out then. Therefore there had to              Based on the last police cam video posted, it looks like the police did       not even attempt to question him in any sort of normal interrogation.       Instead they gave him threatening commands while holding a gun on him.       It is believable that having a gun pushed in your face would cause most       people to "flip out".               GD> be another reason why he did not want to be arrested. Could it be        GD> because of another conviction or he would of been guilty of being in        GD> violation of his parole.               Where did you see that he was on parole at the time of the incident?               GD> Have you seen the destruction Minneapolis?        GD> I suspect that they (the media that you watch) don't care to show        GD> this.               I saw what you posted on network news, CNN, MSMBC and FoxNews. What are       you trying to intimidate?               GD> Does it look like this was done by just a few people, as you have        GD> suggested?               No, it does not look like a few people, nor have I previously said that.       I will admit that there was an immediate uprising triggered by pent up       anger that resulting in many people committing acts of violence and       causing great damage. While I can sort of understand their frustration,       I by no means condone their actions. If found, they should be charged       and prosecuted.              What I have said is that after that initial outburst, the great number       of people began peaceful protests. There were still a few who performed       acts of violence inconsistent with what the majority was doing. Those       people should also be caught, charged and subjected to lawful       punishment. But it cannot be allowed for those few people to tarnish       the legitimate protest of the rest. Nor can they be the justification       for the type of violent treatment that has been meted out to the       protest crowds in some situations, e.g. Lafayette Square.               GD> Many Business owners have lost everything now that those buildings        GD> have been reduced to rubble.               And they deserve to be compensated for their loss.               Dale Shipp        fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net        (1:261/1466)                     ... 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