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|    Dale Shipp to Gregory Deyss    |
|    Re: Floyd    |
|    08 Aug 20 01:46:02    |
      REPLY: 1:267/150 ab2e1007       MSGID: 1:261/1466.0 5f2e3c1a        -=> On 08-07-20 13:24, Gregory Deyss <=-        -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-               DS> The point was and is that blacks are killed by police at a higher rate        DS> than whites. Stop trying to deflect to other arguments if you cannot        DS> address that point.               GD> I am deflecting anything but did provide the actual facts that prove        GD> that 1. I am not deflecting               You are deflecting when you attempt to present some other argument.               GD> 2. I have proven that your statement is inaccurate.               My statement is taken from a link you supplied.               DS> It depends. If it were always a deadly weapon, then why bother using it        DS> instead of a gun? It is only a deadly weapon in some situations -- and        DS> this was not one of them.               GD> Because Dale. Brooks ... did ... have ... a ... gun ...              Really? That is not in any of the reporting. Enlighten us all as to       your evidence that he had a gun during the incident that led to his       being shot in the back.               GD> There is no area of confusion or no ability to twist either, when it        GD> fits your narrative. You can't have it both way when it suits you.         GD> The District Attorney ruled that the use of a taser "IS" a deadly        GD> weapon.               Quote the ruling. When is a taser a deadly weapon? I do not believe       that it can be considered as such when discharged randomly in the air       from a considerable distance. Site the ruling that shows I am wrong.                      DS> I did not see or hear that in the video -- show me the time spot where        DS> it occurred.               GD> Again the video can be found at                GD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5QEnGkIbzA               GD> 1:34 and then from there it shows in detail what those charges were.               OK since it was not on the video in question, you dug up some other       video by a youtube blogger. I'm sure that if one searches enough they       can come up with some source to say anything they want to say. In any       case, looking at time 3:12 the blogger goes on to claim that the DA has       declared that a taser is a deadly weapon. He presents a chart from the       GA code that he claims supports his statement. However, it explicitly       outlines conditions under which an object might result in a charge of       aggravated assault. That article doe not mention a taser, and for the       case in question the taser as discharged by Brooks does not fit the       definition in the statue. It was not discharged in a manner that did or       could result in serious bodily harm.              Try again if you can come up with a credible source.               Dale Shipp        fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net        (1:261/1466)                                   ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 02:10:43, 08 Aug 2020       ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30       --- Maximus/NT 3.01        * Origin: Owl's Anchor (1:261/1466)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 14/0 15/0 19/36 80/1 88/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201       SEEN-BY: 116/18 120/331 340 123/131 140 153/7715 154/10 203/0 218/700       SEEN-BY: 221/0 1 6 222/2 226/30 227/114 229/101 424 426 700 1016 1017       SEEN-BY: 230/150 152 240/1120 5832 249/206 317 250/1 261/38 100 1466       SEEN-BY: 266/512 267/155 275/100 280/464 5003 282/464 1031 1038 1056       SEEN-BY: 288/100 291/100 111 292/854 8125 301/1 113 310/31 317/3 320/119       SEEN-BY: 320/219 322/757 340/400 341/66 342/200 396/45 423/120 633/280       SEEN-BY: 640/1321 1384 712/620 848 770/1 801/161 188 189 197 202 900/100       SEEN-BY: 900/106 108 902/6 7 25 26 27 920/1 2320/105 2452/250 3634/12       SEEN-BY: 5020/1042 5058/104       PATH: 261/1466 38 712/848 280/464 292/854 301/1 80/1 902/27 90/1       PATH: 229/426           |
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