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    -=> On 08-04-20  13:33,  Gregory Deyss <=-   
    -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Floyd <=-   
      
    DS> Did you actually look at that article with understanding?  Possibly not   
    DS> since you seemed to miss the point that a higher proportion of blacks   
    DS> are shot by police than whites.   
      
    GD> Here are the Actual Numbers   
      
   You are trying to defect and not respond to the actual question because   
   you cannot handle the truth.  The quote was not about actual numbers,   
   but about the rate of police shootings of black americans per millions   
   of population.   
      
    GD> 1441 more whites died then 778 black in last 4 years   
      
   Not the point.   
      
    DS> [quote]   
    DS> Additionally, the rate of fatal police shootings among Black Americans   
    DS> was much higher than that for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal   
    DS> shootings per million of the population as of July 2020.   
    DS> [/quote]   
      
    GD> Here is the full quote    
      
    GD> Sadly, the trend of fatal police shootings in the United States seems   
    GD> to only be increasing, with a total 558 civilians having been shot, 111   
    GD> of whom were Black, as of July 29, 2020. In 2018, there were 996 fatal    
    GD> police shootings, and   
    GD> in 2019 this figure increased to 1,004. Additionally, the rate of   
    GD> fatal police shootings among Black Americans was much higher than that   
    GD> for any other ethnicity, standing at 31 fatal shootings per million of   
    GD> the population as of July 2020.   
      
   True, you quoted a bit more of the paragraph which is irrelavent to the   
   point being made, but is your deflection.   
      
    GD> Let's take a deeper dive, shall we? with what the above text is   
    GD> indicating here.  558 civilians having been shot 111 of whom were black   
    GD> this means that 447 of these were of another race. That number of   
    GD> skyrocketed to 1004, the graphic does NOT say it was by by Police   
    GD> officers,   
      
   Duh -- the quote is explicit that it about shootings of blacks by police   
   officers -- why are you trying to muddy the water?   
      
    GD> In recent years, particularly since the fatal shooting of Michael   
    GD> Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, police brutality has become a hot   
    GD> button issue in the United States. The number of homicides committed by   
    GD> police in the United States is often compared to those in countries   
    GD> such as England, where the number is significantly lower.   
      
   With good reason, perhaps because England has stricter gun control laws.   
   Also due to the fact that most British police do not even carry guns --   
   they don't feed the need to do so.   
      
      
    GD> Black Lives Matter   
    GD> The Black Lives Matter Movement, formed in 2013, has been a vocal part   
    GD> of the movement against police brutality in the U.S. by organizing   
    GD> "die-ins", marches, and demonstrations in response to the killings of   
    GD> black men and women by police.   
      
    GD> Black Lives Matter is a farce.    
      
   <>   
      
    GD> Rayshard Brooks would still be alive today if he did resist arrest.   
    GD> Don't take my word for it watch the video how   
    GD> this started and how it   
    GD> ended   
    GD> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdpG2XzRXQ&t=183s   
      
    DS> Except that the end of that 44 minute video does not show how it ended.   
    DS> It shows a lot of discussion.  It shows the officer administering a   
    DS> field sobriety test (which Brooks passed much better than I could at any   
    DS> time).  Then it showed the officer putting cuffs on Brooks without any   
    DS> real explanation.  A shuffle ensued and Brooks ran away (not the best   
    DS> choice I admit).  From then on, we only hear sounds.  Did you watch the   
    DS> video?  If you had, you could not have truthfully said it showed the   
    DS> end.   
      
    GD> You are right about the discussion just about 42 minutes worth. You   
    GD> really believe that you or I would be given 42 minutes of time to try   
    GD> to explain ourselves?   
      
   In other words, you did not see what you claimed to see about how he got   
   shot.  And no, I think that you or me would have been told after about   
   five minutes -- OK, walk over to your daughter's birthday and leave your   
   car parked here where it is safe and causing no problem.   
      
    DS> Other videos show that the officer shot Brooks in the back as he was   
    DS> running away.  Brooks was no threat to the officer or anyone -- which is   
    DS> the critera for using deadly force.   
      
    GD> This video that I posted was from a Police Body cam, what other video   
    GD> would you be referencing.   
      
   Several that have been posted and aired on multiple news channels.  Did   
   you not see them?  Do you not know that he was shot in the back while   
   running away?   
      
    DS> Wrong.  The cop fired while Brooks was running away -- shot in the back.   
      
    GD> No you're wrong. COPS do not shoot at suspects white or black just for   
    GD> fleeing the scene.     
      
   That is exactly what was done.  It is against any standard police   
   procedure, but that is what was done.   
      
    GD> At 41:35 you can hear the cop telling Rayshard to let go of the tazer.   
      
   True -- not relevant to being shot in the back while running away.  If   
   you believe anything else happened, you have not been listening to   
   reputable sources.   
      
                                  Dale Shipp   
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