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|    Lee Lofaso to Gregory Deyss    |
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|    25 Jul 20 06:14:45    |
      MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5f1ba3a0       REPLY: 1:267/150 a6ee092b       PID: JamNNTPd/OS2 1.3 20200711       TID: GE/2 1.2       CHRS: CP437 2       TZUTC: 0300       Hello Greg,              [..]              >If people get arrested or shot at a traffic stop, it's their own dam fault.              While driving is a privilege, and not a right, nobody has the right       to commit acts of murder.              [..]              >Trayvon was not gunned down in cold blood as you have suggested, as it       > turned out he was up to no good, he died because he tried to take the gun       > from Zimmerman.              Trayvon was unarmed, had been trying to run away from his assailant,       and then murdered in cold blood.              >By the way here is the story from The New York Times about the matter....       >       >MIAMI -       >The Justice Department on Tuesday closed its investigation into the shooting       >death three years ago of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teenager in a       > hoodie who became a symbol of racial profiling and the face of a protest       > movement, without filing hate-crime charges against the gunman, George       > Zimmerman.              Unarmed. Murdered in cold blood. Just because the officer was not       convicted due to lack of evidence does not mean the officer was not       innocent. White cop with loaded gun pointed at black kid with no gun       at all (or any other means to defend himself) means the officer was       guilty as sin.              [..]              >Mr. Zimmerman was acquitted of second-degree murder in a state court in       > 2013; some jurors said they believed that he had shot Mr. Martin, 17, in       > self-defense.              Some jurors, meaning as few as two, claiming their own belief the       officer may have acted in self-defense. As you know, it would have       taken a unanimous verdict in order to convict. And two is far from       unaminous.              The majority of jurors more likely felt there was not enough evidence       to convict, as the verdict had to be unanimous in order to acquit.              In our system of justice, the accused is presumed innocent until       proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Not enough evidence to convict       is reasonable doubt.              [..]              >DS>A report that is / was in dispute. The other version is that the       >DS>officer grabbed Brown by the neck and then shot at him. After which       >DS>Brown tried to run away.       >       >Micheal Brown was man of colossal size compared to the cop who shot him.              The white cop who murdered Michael Brown was just as big, if not       bigger. But aside from that, the white cop also had a loaded gun.       Quite unlike his black victim, whose only "weapons" were the hands       attached to his own body.              >The cop would not have the ability to slam Micheal Brown to the on the       > ground by his neck or by any other human appendage.              Far easier to point a loaded gun at his victim and pull the trigger.              >The cop was from Planet Earth and was NOT from the planet Krypton.              Superman never kills.              [..]              >Again a protester is not going to be standing there with his/her hands up       > and they certainly wouldn't be hit by a baton, if they obeyed Police       > direction.              And yet, news media showed a Navy veteran doing just that. Allowed       himself to get beaten up, then walked away with his hands up.              >Nor would they be rushed up upon and shoved into a unmarked car.       >For you to suggest this is how it happened is absurd.              It was all caught on camera, for everyone to see.              [..]              >>It is their city, and it is their responsibility.              These are American cities, belonging to us all.              >>They were working with the protestors.              That is what mayors and governors do. Working with people is their       job, what they were elected to do.              >>One of them was tear gassed in another attack on peaceful protestors.              The mayor of Portland, Oregon was tear gassed, along with peaceful       and nonviolent protesters. That is what happens when a crazy man in       the White House targets the American people as his enemies.              >>Those milita do not belong there poring gasoline on the embers.              Emperor Nero loved to watch his city burn. The current emperor       loves to watch his country burn.              >The leadership was working with the protesters, right....? What ? The       > really suck at their jobs then. As the protesters continue to despoil the       > city. Still Why? You seem to understand these people... Tell me why they       > are causing all this Havoc and Chaos?              Had crazy man not sent in thugs to confront those innocent people,       nothing would have happened. But you know how it is. Pyromaniacs       cannot have any fun without their fires ...              >The mayor who has be-friended protesters (as in joining or walking with the       > protesters) also found out really quick as the crowd turned on him as they       > started to chant "Quit your Job!"              The peaceful and nonviolent protesters were on his side. It was       only the instigators who wanted a show. Too bad the mayor and peaceful       protesters could not get away fast enough.              >Regardless these cities have lost control in their cities, and those cities       > and the Federal property within those cities come under the jurisdiction of       > the Federal Government.              We have had several protests in Baton Rouge. We have had several       protests in New Orleans. We have had several protests in other parts       of Louisiana. Even though Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and many other       cities have Democratic mayors, along with the state having a Democratic       governor, your dear president never bothered to send any of his thugs       to our place. Why? Because your orange menace is only sending thugs       to places he wants to cause trouble in.              >Maybe you did not hear about the protesters who tried to burn down a Federal       > Courthouse with Federal workers still inside the building.              Maybe you did not hear that nobody gives a fug. Crazy man wants to       cause a scene so that he can use video of it during his campaign for       a second term. Problem is, the first time he tried to do that it was       video of protesters in Ukraine. Such a law and order guy. He should       be granted a medal.              >Even within the Constitution the President has the authority to quell civil       > unrest.              The POTUS is dictator???              >"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union,       > establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common       > defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty       > to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution       > for the United States of America."              The Preamble of the US Constitution. Certainly is part of the       US Constitution. Sets the parameters of what government can do.       Imagine that. The idea of limited government. Who'd a thunk it?       If only you understood what that meant, or means.              --Lee              --        You're fired, Donald!       --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb        * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 14/0 80/1 88/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 120/340 123/131       SEEN-BY: 154/10 203/0 218/700 221/0 1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/101       SEEN-BY: 229/424 426 700 1016 1017 240/1120 5832 249/206 317 261/38       SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 282/464 1038 288/100 292/854 8125 301/1 113       SEEN-BY: 310/31 317/3 322/757 342/200 396/45 423/81 120 712/848 770/1       SEEN-BY: 801/188 197 202 900/100 106 108 902/6 7 25 26 27 920/1 2452/250       SEEN-BY: 5058/104       PATH: 221/360 1 280/464 292/854 301/1 80/1 902/27 90/1 229/426           |
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