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    -=> On 07-23-20  21:57,  Gregory Deyss <=-   
    -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-   
      
      
   Most of your remarks here are off the mark and were pivots trying to   
   distract from the point.  Thus they deserve no response.   
      
    DS> How many white parents have felt the need to have "the talk" with their   
    DS> children about how to act if stopped by the police?  How many black   
    DS> parents have *NOT* felt that need.   
      
    GD> What do you think that conversation is Dale among white families to   
    GD> their young adults?    
    GD> Be Respectful perhaps...?   
    GD> Maybe if the Black Families had the same conversation with their young   
    GD> adults maybe that would break the cycle, what do you think?   
      
   White parents do not see the need to tell their white children "keep   
   your hands on the steering wheel so that you do not get shot".  White   
   parents do not see the need to tell their white children "don't make any   
   sudden movements or you might get shot".  White parents do not see the   
   need to tell their white children "don't question why you were stopped   
   or you might get shot". and so forth, the list goes on.   
       
    GD> Blacks have been equal in schools since the civil   
    GD> rights act has been passed.   
      
    DS> That is simply not true.  The budgets of predominately black schools   
    DS> have been less than those of predominately white schools.  Hence, not   
    DS> equal.   
      
    GD> Your facts are lefty fictions, you ever hear of opportunity zones, why   
    GD> don't you read up on what the President is doing for Urban kids in   
    GD> schools.  You might even learn something.    
       
   Since his Secretary of Education has no knowledge nor connection in her   
   life with public schools, I would doubt that she has made any attempt to   
   equalize the disparity.  Please show me how that is not true.   
      
    GD> No one is chasing them out of town with guns aimed - that would   
    GD> illegal and punishable by law.   
      
    DS> Tell that to Treyvon Martin or Ahmaud Arbrey.  Oh -- you can't do that   
    DS> because they were chased with guns aimed and were killed.   
      
    GD> We all know the Treyvon Martin Story, and that is no one to put on a   
    GD> pedestal. He was a thug, and also a kid who Obama once said could of   
    GD> been my son.    
      
   Your point is what?  Any want-a-be cop / vigilant has the right to gun   
   down anyone he believes to be a thug who does not belong in his   
   neighborhood?  Surely you jest.   
      
    DS> Some of which are not from a distant past.  The fact that they ever   
    DS> happened has contributed to the national predjudice.   
      
    GD> This is 2020 not 1950.    
      
   None of those memories were as far back as 1950.  Some were from much   
   more recent times.   
      
    GD> I do not think you have the same understanding with the facts in the   
    GD> Michael Brown case or what the events that led to Mr. Browns death.    
    GD> You apparently were   
    GD> sleeping when when it once announced the Michael Brown reached into   
    GD> the Police car and tried to take the gun from the Police Officer and   
      
   A report that is / was in dispute.  The other version is that the   
   officer grabbed Brown by the neck and then shot at him.  After which   
   Brown tried to run away.   
      
    GD> declaration made from the President with Law and Order and the   
      
    DS> Right -- send in the storm troopers to grab people off the street and   
    DS> wisk them away in unmarked vehicles, all with no probable cause or   
    DS> justification.  That is Trump's idea of law and order.   
      
    GD> Probable Cause ? Are you serious these cities look like a warzone and   
    GD> getting worse by the hour.  Storm Troopers - Yet another Nazi   
    GD> Reference?  You're as bad as Pelosi that's what she said I do believe.    
      
   I used the appropriate expression.  Have you not watched any of the   
   videos showing them rushing up to a man standing quietly and grabbing   
   him and shoveing him into an unmarked car?  Or the video showing them   
   using baton sticks to attack a man standing with his hands up?  What   
   else would you call such tactics.  They are deliberately inflaming the   
   protestors.   
      
    GD> These are Democratic Mayors & Governors who have lost control of their   
    GD> cities. Do you deny that? - or do like chaos?    
      
   It is their city, and it is their responsibility.  They were working   
   with the protestors.  One of them was tear gassed in another attack on   
   peaceful protestors.  Those milita do not belong there poring gasoline   
   on the embers.   
      
                                  Dale Shipp   
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