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    -=> On 07-22-20  08:28,  Gregory Deyss <=-   
    -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-   
      
    DS> Are they free to move into your neighborhood and not be subjected to   
    DS> predujice and scorn?  Are they free to have equal schools?  Are they   
    DS> free to walk or jog down your street without someone deciding that they   
    DS> do not belong and then chase them down with guns?  Are they free to get   
    DS> on an elevator without noticing that the woman who is there tightens her   
    DS> grip on her purse?   
      
    GD> Your painting with a rather large brush in a attempt to prove your   
    GD> point.  but there are things that are simply no longer the case which   
    GD> dulls the point that you are trying to make here.    
      
   Actually, I made a very narrow painting showing only a few examples that   
   came to mind.  Those who have lived the black life in America could make   
   a listing that goes on for hundreds of lines.   
      
   How many white parents have felt the need to have "the talk" with their   
   children about how to act if stopped by the police?  How many black   
   parents have *NOT* felt that need.   
      
    GD> These people are subject to watch them closely because of previous   
    GD> events.  Being Vigilant is not Prejudice.   
      
   The very fact that you make such a statement is based on predjudice.   
   You are making a judgement about a single person based on some   
   experience with someone else "like them".   
      
    GD> Blacks have been equal in schools since the civil rights act has been   
    GD> passed.   
      
   That is simply not true.  The budgets of predominately black schools   
   have been less than those of predominately white schools.  Hence, not   
   equal.   
      
    GD> No one is chasing them out of town with guns aimed - that would   
    GD> illegal and punishable by law.   
      
   Tell that to Treyvon Martin or Ahmaud Arbrey.  Oh -- you can't do that   
   because they were chased with guns aimed and were killed.   
      
    GD> I do understand where there would be a   
    GD> fear of a sole women in elevator gripping her purse more securely -so   
    GD> what. Just because she feels slightly insecure or may just feel   
    GD> frightened, means nothing in it self.  This is not a crime and it   
    GD> shouldn't provide the spark or trigger or create the outrage that   
    GD> destroys cities across the United States.    
      
   The fact that it happens when sharing an elevator with a black man and   
   not with a white man is evidence of the systemic racism that colors   
   people's attitudes, albeit subconsciously.   
      
    DS> Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch and   
    DS> observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food to   
    DS> eat in their car.  I can recall that my schools had no black students.   
    DS> I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no good   
    DS> reason, even though they were as qualified as others.  I can recall when   
    DS> it was against the law for a white and a black to get married.  Most of   
    DS> these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.   
      
    GD> I am not denying that any of those things have happened, but as you   
    GD> recall these memories from the past,   
      
   Some of which are not from a distant past.  The fact that they ever   
   happened has contributed to the national predjudice.   
      
    GD> Did you know every back man who was shot and killed by a police   
    GD> officer from Michael Brown to George Floyd would still be alive today   
    GD> if they did not resist arrest?   
      
   That is not true.  Michael Brown was not armed and did not form a threat   
   to police.  George Floyd was not resisting arrest, but was struggled to   
   the ground while handcuffed and presenting no danger to anyone.  The 12   
   year old Tamir Rice was simply playing in a park and shot dead by   
   police.  Walter Scott was shot in the back after being stopped for a   
   broken tail light.  Philando Castile was shot in his car after telling   
   police that he was reaching for his carry permit.  Breonna Taylor was   
   shot and killed in her own apartment.  I recall when a man was shot and   
   killed in downtown Baltimore when he was laying his knife down and was   
   no where near the officers.  There was another case since Floyd where a   
   man was shot in the back and killed while running away - i.e. no threat   
   to anyone.   
      
    GD> You know what this is all about it is in direct defiance of   
    GD> declaration made from the President with Law and Order and the   
    GD> authority that it represents.  These people suggest "Too many Rules"   
    GD> and therefore no  respect for Law & Order"   
    GD> They are kidding themselves if they think they will be successful   
    GD> against the Full power of the U.S. Government.   
      
   Right -- send in the storm troopers to grab people off the street and   
   wisk them away in unmarked vehicles, all with no probable cause or   
   justification.  That is Trump's idea of law and order.   
      
                                  Dale Shipp   
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