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   -=> Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-   
      
    GD> On 02 Jul 2020, Dale Shipp said the following...   
      
    DS>  -=> On 07-01-20  07:59,  Gregory Deyss <=-   
    DS>  -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-   
      
    DS> Are they free to move into your neighborhood and not be subjected to   
    DS> predujice and scorn?  Are they free to have equal schools?  Are they   
    DS> free to walk or jog down your street without someone deciding that they   
    DS> do not belong and then chase them down with guns?  Are they free to get   
    DS> on an elevator without noticing that the woman who is there tightens her   
    DS> grip on her purse?   
      
    GD> Your painting with a rather large brush in a attempt to prove your   
    GD> point. but there are things that are simply no longer the case which   
    GD> dulls the point that you are trying to make here.   
      
    GD> These people are subject to watch them closely because of previous   
    GD> events. Being Vigilant is not Prejudice.   
    GD> Blacks have been equal in schools since the civil rights act has been   
    GD> passed. No one is chasing them out of town with guns aimed - that would   
    GD> illegal and punishable by law. I do understand where there would be a   
    GD> fear of a sole women in elevator gripping her purse more securely -so   
    GD> what. Just because she feels slightly insecure or may just feel   
    GD> frightened, means nothing in it self. This is not a crime and it   
    GD> shouldn't provide the spark or trigger or create the outrage that   
    GD> destroys cities across the United States.   
      
    DS> Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch and   
    DS> observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food to   
    DS> eat in their car.  I can recall that my schools had no black students.   
    DS> I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no good   
    DS> reason, even though they were as qualified as others.  I can recall when   
    DS> it was against the law for a white and a black to get married.  Most of   
    DS> these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.   
      
    GD> I am not denying that any of those things have happened, but as you   
    GD> recall these memories from the past, would you ever imagine that they   
    GD> would have a National Black Lives Matter movement?  or think that those   
    GD> people would be causing havoc and chaos in the cities with burning   
    GD> rioting and looting?   
      
    GD> The stigma of what some of these people have chosen to become   
    GD> continues. While other African-Americans are hard working contributing   
    GD> members of society.   
      
    GD> Did you know every back man who was shot and killed by a police officer   
    GD> from Michael Brown to George Floyd would still be alive today if they   
    GD> did not resist arrest?   
      
    GD> This entire BLM movement is ridiculous.   
    GD> Where were they in the Obama years.   
    GD> Where are they today with Black on Black crime.   
    GD> Where are they today when innocent kids get shot and killed.   
    GD> Not one of these Representatives of this group has acknowledged the   
    GD> collateral damage of their behavior.   
      
    GD> You know what this is all about it is in direct defiance of declaration   
    GD> made from the President with Law and Order and the authority that it   
    GD> represents. These people suggest "Too many Rules" and therefore no   
    GD> respect for Law & Order" They are kidding themselves if they think they   
    GD> will be successful against the Full power of the U.S. Government.   
      
    GD> Democratic mayors and Governors have lost control of their cities in   
    GD> several cities because they are weak.   
      
    GD> Companies want to still make money so they join the bandwagon of the   
    GD> BLM Movement.   
      
    GD> All lives Matter - which includes everyone.   
    GD> If you need to define or indicate a color before All Lives Matter then   
    GD> that is racist too.   
      
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   Didn't BLM start during the Obama years?   
      
   The BLM movement today has been coopted by Whites.  White people have taken the   
   BLM "brand" and are using moral capital to push their own ideology.  There are   
   a lot of young White people who want to fight for a cause, to push a new   
   ideology, and this was a good one to use.  I saw an interesting quote from a   
   Black cop who said there were more Blacks in the police force at the protest,   
   than among the protestors themselves.     
      
   Leftist radicals do that, they jump on board a movement and turn it into their   
   own.  If you see something "pro-Palestine" in Melbourne, its actually   
   Socialists, mostly young White people, with a few Palestinians who haven't   
   cottoned onto the fact the cause is not longer theirs.   
      
   ... Dennis Katsonis   
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