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   Message 23,605 of 26,388   
   Benjamin Toussaint to Aaron Thomas   
   Re: Trump is ok with Russian bounties on   
   03 Jul 20 14:58:00   
   
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   BT>> Do you derive this from his 2-word-phrases like "America First"? The   
   BT>> only thing that was "good for the economy" was money on loan that   
   BT>> boosted stocks - most likely those he and his family hold.   
      
   > It depends on what you call "good." If you scroll back, conservatives have   
   > posted lengthy lists of things Trump's administration has done for our   
   > economy. But instead of being grateful, you're taking 2 knees for Anderson   
   > Cooper.   
      
   If you reduce it to boost stocks by taking loans which means on the longer     
   run reducing purchasing power in general, then yes you could make a few     
   republicans happy for a couple of months or years.   
   But as the great Henry Ford taught us: the even larger part of a working     
   economy, the one that made America so successful is, that people were able     
   to afford the cars they produced. Trump ignored it resp. possesses no     
   knowledge of such things with so many letters, but yet enough shrewdness     
   like his voters.   
   That's his talent, make stupid people vote for him for things that     
   influence their lives to the worse. No health insurance, less stability,     
   less accessible education (best thing for a Trump).   
   Again: easy false messages that are pleasant ("...builduh graaate wooool     
   and make Magsiko pay forrid...").   
   And now? 2 billion spent on that thing. No cent paid by Mexico. Illegal     
   immigration on the highest levels since recording.   
   But the hillbillies don't just not care - they do not believe this obvious     
   fact.   
   Trump's second weapon.   
      
   BT>> Not our media. And certainly not the public media. Usually you do not   
   BT>> get to work in the media when believing "alternative facts"   
      
   > What's public media? Each news network is either left or right; none are   
   > neutral. Are you talking about publicly broadcast media like CBS/NBC/etc?   
      
   Luckily I consume media from many different countries and I work with data     
   in a business environment. So I can understand facts that are more complex     
   than "Great thing! Will make Uhmuhrica great again."   
   Public media are those that are not run by private companies. In Germany     
   the constitution guarantees that such media exist and must not be     
   influenced by politics. Not perfect, but that makes them a reliable, since     
   verifiable source of information (not opinion).   
   Their coverage was just as distant and neutral regarding Trump as it was     
   regarding Obama. Even when he started with his very first lie - just as     
   many people had been there at his inauguration as at Obama's - they just     
   quoted him and showed the recording that it was simply a stupid lie.   
   But truly, the democrats have infiltrated the German media to produce fake     
   news, right?   
      
   > They all chose sides too. Telemundo even choses sides - and they are the   
   > fakest of all. They have illegal immigrants to appeal to - so it wouldn't   
   > help them much if they said anything good about Trump.   
   The German, French, Brazilian, African or Australian media have no benefit     
   from talking bad about Trump. Yet they do, because that clown keeps saying     
   and doing stupid stuff.   
   Simple minded people only see the foreground messages he tweets - and     
   believe them. I am asking myself how much of his school time someone has     
   to spend asleep to fall for that.   
      
   BT>> The only explanation for the negative media all over the world is, that   
   BT>> Trump is simply an idiot.   
      
   > Who's the idiot? The president, or thousands of people who live their lives   
   > in negativity because of the things he said?   
   Both.   
      
   > If you hate Trump, be glad about term limits. It's just a phase. We'll all   
   > be sucking up to China & Iran again some day, just be patient & have your   
   > money ready.   
      
   Term limits are in fact a very good thing for the USA. I am not so fond of     
   Biden either and wasn't of Hillary... yet, what this country, that still     
   has my sympathy, needs now is someone reliable and smart. Trump is     
   neither.   
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