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    -=> On 07-01-20  07:59,  Gregory Deyss <=-   
    -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Floyd <=-   
      
    DS> Yes -- you should open your eyes and your mind.  There was rioting and   
    DS> looting by a small number of opportunists at first.  That has been   
    DS> replaced by peaceful people protesting the systemic injustice that has   
    DS> been going on for a long time.   
      
    GD> Why do people on the left always portray the numbers to be small and   
    GD> suggest that a small number of opportunists when they know dam well   
    GD> within their heart of hearts that the number is much larger then they   
    GD> care to admit.  This is not a small number hooligans, as your   
    GD> suggesting...   
      
   Numbers are numbers.  I do not portray them, I report or analyze them.   
   Why do you portray them as being much bigger than they are?   
      
    GD> Open your eyes to realize the number is much bigger and much more of a   
    GD> problem.   
      
   Open your eyes and ears and listen.  How much rioting and looting has   
   happened since the initial surge -- which was caused by no where all of   
   the protestors.  The answer is that there have been many days without   
   any incident caused by the protestors.   
      
       
    DS>  GD> Why is there a national movement, to de-fund the Police.     
       
    DS> To take some of the money used for violent interaction with the people   
    DS> and put it towards more productive community service.  It does not mean    
    DS> to eliminate the police.   
      
    GD> The violent interaction comes when these people think they can not   
    GD> adhere to the Police direction and instruction.   
      
   The violent interaction comes when the police lose respect for the fact   
   that all people are human beings and deserve to be treated as such --   
   and that people are not to be shot in the back or stomped on the neck   
   until dead.   
       
    GD> These people chant about wanting and demanding   
    GD> respect and equality.   
    GD> As far as equality they are as free as I am or as you are.   
      
    DS> You need to open your eyes and mind.  The people at the heart of the   
    DS> protests are not as free as you or I.   
      
    GD> Please explain how they are not free?    
    GD> With the same level of freedom as you or myself.   
      
   Are they free to move into your neighborhood and not be subjected to   
   predujice and scorn?  Are they free to have equal schools?  Are they   
   free to walk or jog down your street without someone deciding that they   
   do not belong and then chase them down with guns?  Are they free to get   
   on an elevator without noticing that the woman who is there tightens her   
   grip on her purse?   
      
   Within my lifetime, I can recall going into a restaurant for lunch and   
   observing a black couple who had to go to the back door and get food to   
   eat in their car.  I can recall that my schools had no black students.   
   I can recall observing black analysts being denied promotion for no good   
   reason, even though they were as qualified as others.  I can recall when   
   it was against the law for a white and a black to get married.  Most of   
   these things are no longer true, but the stain and stigma remains.   
      
                                  Dale Shipp   
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