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   On 12 Jun 2020 at 03:36a, Lee Lofaso pondered and said...   
       
    LL> >And I answered that unequivocally: No.  I am not, nor   
    LL> >was I ever, under any obligation to follow any illegal   
    LL> >order, no matter who issued it; I would not do so.  You   
    LL> >evidently know me better than I do, though, and disagree   
    LL> >with me on what I would do and what I have seen other   
    LL> >military officers do.   
    LL>    
    LL> Notice the president and his entourage waited until the protesters   
    LL> had been cleared for them to make their appearance at the church.   
    LL>    
    LL> Fact of the matter is you have no idea what you would do   
    LL> in certain situations.   
      
   Actually, haven been in situations like that, I do.   
      
    LL> If during a time of war your commanding officer gives you a   
    LL> sidearm and tells you to take a prisoner to headquarters and   
    LL> return in fifteen minutes, you would do it - even though it   
    LL> would take you a full hour driving through heavy fighting in   
    LL> enemy territory. You would do it just to save your own sorry   
    LL> skin, knowing what your commanding officer would do to you   
    LL> if you failed to follow that order.   
      
   Are you describing yourself?  Because you sure as shit   
   aren't describing _me_.  I've been in situations like   
   that and know full-well what I'd do.   
      
    LL> Soldiers exist to follow orders. That's it. They are not there   
    LL> to think. Only to do what they are told. Nothing more, nothing   
    LL> less. The commander in chief is head honcho, and all his toy   
    LL> soldiers and sailors and airmen are compelled to comply. Even   
    LL> his spacemen, although not really sure what branch the space   
    LL> force is supposed to be part of. In Robert Heinlein's world the   
    LL> spacemen were Marines. But this is Trumpland ...   
      
   That's one of the most laughable things I've ever read.   
   That's empirically not true.  Maybe for bootlickers like   
   you who want to follow Trump off an authoritarian cliff.   
      
    LL> >But you've also admitted to being a Trump supporter, so   
    LL> >this is unsurprising.   
    LL>    
    LL> I said I wear a red hat and have a huge banner on my wall.   
    LL> How does that make me a Trump supporter?   
      
   Your statements and actions do, symbols aside.   
      
    LL> >I am not retired, as I told you.  That's a very specific   
    LL> >status; I served and left the service prior to retirement.   
    LL> >I am honorably discharged.   
    LL>    
    LL> So is US Senator Tammy Duckworth. But at least you still have legs   
    LL> to stand on. Unlike so many others, some who have lost far more.   
      
   What does that have to do with anything?   
      
   But since you brought here up.... Why don't you go tell   
   Sen Duckworth that she was there to only follow orders,   
   not to think, and that she'd commit war crimes if told   
   to do so by Donald Trump?  She may have lost her legs to   
   the RPG round that hit her Blackhawk, but I'll bet she'd   
   tear you apart so fast you'd have no idea what hit you.   
      
    LL> --Lee   
      
   The rest of your post was an incoherent wall of text.   
   Very well.   
      
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