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   On 06 Jun 2020 at 12:23p, Daniel pondered and said...   
       
    Da> Believe whatever you want. I won't attempt to talk reason with you. I   
    Da> really hope you don't learn the hard way.    
      
   I think you have no idea what reason is.   
      
    Da> I spent yesterday helping with the cleanup while the national guard was   
    Da> down the street. I have a number of friends who own businesses that were   
    Da> ravaged. I'll be spending the weekend doing the same thing.    
      
   Source or it's just another right-wing lie.   
      
    Da> I'm sure it was all in my mind though. You can keep watching your   
    Da> cesspress coverage now. Don't mind me.   
      
   I see you have no sources.  Just another right-wing liar.   
      
    Da> Are you asking if I've been to every city? No. Have you?    
      
   Undoubtedly more than you.   
      
    Da> I'm all for protesting. It's part of what makes this country great. It's   
    Da> quite unfortunate that you believe everything your press tells you.   
    Da> Blinded.   
      
   Nah, you're not.  You hate the Constitution and Bill of   
   Rights, just like all right-wingers.   
      
    Da>  DC> Trying to paint _all_ protesters with the "riot" brush is   
    Da>  DC> at best misleading and more likely deliberate.   
    Da>    
    Da> I'm not, youre putting words in my mouth. I'm talking about the rioters.   
    Da> The damage being done isn't at the hand of a few. It is widespread and   
    Da> thorough.   
      
   Yeah, that's where you break down.  It really is in a few.   
      
   Cite a credible source, or you're just another right-wing liar.   
      
    Da> Repeating a false claim doesn't make it any more true.   
      
   Have you heard Fox News?   
      
    Da> I'm glad you've been to protests and delighted that you are safe. What   
    Da> exactly are you protesting?    
      
   Me, personally?  This was against a KKK rally in NYC.  The   
   klan came out, with like 20 people, and several thousand   
   showed up to the counter-protest.   
      
   Now days, I think it's important to acknowledge that Black   
   Lives really do matter.  Historically, this hasn't been the   
   case; we have systemic policies that keep that community   
   from achieving equality.  But right now I'm most concerned   
   about the police violence.  The police are out of control,   
   drunk on their own power, and see themselves as separate   
   from the rest of the populace.  They even refer to other   
   people as "civilians", even though they themselves are   
   civilians.  It's disgusting.  Limited immunity and police   
   unions have got to go.   
    Da>  DC> I hope you people on the right wake up and start respecting   
    Da>  DC> the rights of the citizenry.   
    Da>    
    Da> You're being ignorant. We're angry about the rioting, looting, killing   
    Da> and how it is being largely ignored and minimized. You're talking as if   
    Da> nothing seriously wrong is occuring. You think that what's happening in   
    Da> the present day is largely peaceful. Your experience is peaceful   
    Da> thankfully, but the damage speaks a different story.   
      
   Nah.  You're lying.  You are the one who is ignorant, my   
   friend, fed on a steady diet of Fox and right-wing talking   
   heads.  Wake up.   
      
    Da> The left has been protesting ever since the unelectable Hillary lost in   
    Da> 2016. If we were mad about anything it was the lies, ignorance, and   
    Da> hypocracy of leftist demands.   
      
   Sounds like the right-wing during the Obama administration.   
   But you never saw him gassing his own people for a photo op   
   or praising dictators like King Jong Un.   
      
   Lies and hypocrisy, indeed.  The right-wing simply lies so   
   they can indulge in their disgusting believe system of bigotry   
   and hate.  What a bunch of sad, pathetic individuals.   
      
    Da> What I'd like to see, primarily, is classical liberals disowning the far   
    Da> left movement because they have wrecked your party.    
      
   When you say, "your party" what party do you think I belong   
   to?  Speaking of ignorance and all of that.   
      
    Da> Many of the perps arrested for rioting were released.   
      
   Citation or it's just another of your right-wing lies.   
      
    Da> By every accout, NYC has lost complete control of the streets over, by   
    Da> your repeated exaggeration, a few people.    
      
   Liar.   
      
    Da> I have been quite critical of Trump for his emotional tweets this last   
    Da> week. But, the problem with the stanc eof the left is they have a view   
    Da> that the president is the only person responsible for what happens in   
    Da> the coutry. They ignore the fact that there's many layers of government   
    Da> elected below him responsible for their areas. The coutnry is intensely   
    Da> complex and, yet, when problems occur they never seem to blame their   
    Da> officials for the failings unless, of course, the president is a   
    Da> democrat.   
      
   Lies.  The utter failure to hold Trump accountable in any way   
   is transparent to all, regardless of political leaning.  You   
   can try to distort that truth, but that's why you'll lose in   
   November, if Trump doesn't concoct some kind of fake emergency   
   to simply seize power.  But here's the litmus test: if he does   
   so, will you go along with him?   
      
    Da> Things have changed, at least in Sacramento. The groups attempted to   
    Da> create mayhem in some of our suburban areas but were obviously unaware   
    Da> that they are strong second amendment areas. It was short lived. Curfews   
    Da> were imposed only after the rioting caused serious problems. Newsom also   
    Da> lives nearby. While we dislike his politics, the organizations behind   
    Da> this mess are allied with him. He, nor his Aunt, wont let them shit   
    Da> where he eats.   
      
   Oh, citation on your "strong second amendment" sections BS.   
   You really are a little liar, aren't you?   
      
    Da> Listen, I don't care what you believe, have at it. What happened to   
    Da> Floyd was a travesty for many reasons:   
      
   Bwhaha.  Your wall of text in response to me says otherwise.   
      
    Da> 8. The second amendment exists particularly for this sort of situation.   
      
   No, it doesn't.  That's the masturbatious fantasy of the NRA   
   and other non-hackers who talk a good game about guns and   
   fetishize them, but have never heard a shot fired in anger.   
      
    Da> There are many stories but that's two.   
      
   You sound like you may have a screw loose and are at   
   a minimum susceptible to conspiracy theories and right-wing   
   propaganda.   
      
    Da> If you've been protesting, as you claim, I hope you are doing so for   
    Da> institutional reform of law enforcement and reinforced citizen   
    Da> protection from police brutality. If this is true, I'm completely behind   
    Da> you.   
      
   Well, we can agree on that.   
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