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   On 04 Jun 2020 at 10:08p, Daniel pondered and said...   
       
    Da>  DC> It's just a convenient link to the video, guy.   
    Da>    
    Da> I was just ticked off at the insinuation that the riots don't matter.   
       
   Yeah, those are _actually_ a really small part of   
   what's happening.   
      
    Da>  DC> The "riots" are due to an extreme minority of people.   
    Da>  DC> The vast, vast majority are peacefully protesting.   
    Da>    
    Da> The narrative that the riots are mostly peaceful is part of a   
    Da> misinformation campaign by the press. Placing quotes around the word   
    Da> riots shows you don't question it. The left has turned into what they   
    Da> hate and don't even realize it.   
      
   What nonsense.  Have you been there?  Have you seen what's   
   happening?   
      
   Riots by definition aren't peaceful, but what's _actually_   
   happening is that, in the vast, vast majority of cases, it's   
   people who are out peacefully protesting, as is their right   
   under the Constitution.   
      
   Trying to paint _all_ protesters with the "riot" brush is   
   at best misleading and more likely deliberate.   
      
   I've been to protests and seen the vast bulk of people   
   behaving peacefully and with good intent.  A small number   
   sometimes turn up to cause trouble.  Yet all the attention   
   is heaped on the relatively small number of trouble   
   makers.   
      
    Da> I hope that changes.   
      
   I hope you people on the right wake up and start respecting   
   the rights of the citizenry.   
      
    Da> While many of the people have been arrested, the cities released them   
    Da> without bail the same evening so they returned to cause mayhem. And if   
    Da> you believe the riots are a small group of people, consider the mass   
    Da> damage these people managed to do. Take a look at all the looting that   
    Da> has been occuring in NYC. I read 900 people were arrested and quickly   
    Da> released in NYC alone. This is not an extreme minority. You'd like to   
    Da> think it's mostly peaceful but some of these large cities are saying   
    Da> that their police force is overwhelmed and asking for military   
    Da> assistance. Peaceful protests don't lose control.   
      
   The way the NYPD usually works is that, _if_ a protest gets   
   out of hand, they corral a large number of people into an   
   enclosed space, take them into custody, and then process them:   
   the vast bulk are never charged and released immediately.   
   This is simply more efficient than trying to pick the   
   perpetrators out in-situ.   
      
   I've heard this old saw of "the police feel overwhelmed" many   
   times, and I call shenanigans.  The military doesn't exist to   
   cater to the fantasies of right-wing would-be authoritarians.   
      
   Even Pat Robertson told Trump he's gone too far cracking down   
   on protesters, and now the Generals are coming out and rebuking   
   him publicly.  It sure took Mattis long enough, though.   
      
   So what's it going to be: everyone else is wrong and Trump is   
   right, or the much more likely explanation that Trump's an   
   idiot?   
      
    Da> My city, Sacramento, has had over fifty small businesses destroyed the    
    Da> last week and it's considered relatively peaceful. in my town, most of   
    Da> the protests, during the day, are peaceful. It's only after dark that   
    Da> the looting occurs. But if you listen to the press, it's only a few.   
    Da> Ridiculous.   
      
   Is it, though?   
      
   https://www.facebook.com/AmericasPoliceProblem/videos/334147027232246/   
      
    Da> I pay little attention to press sources regardless of political slant. I   
    Da> prefer to view raw feeds without a voiceover explaining what I'm   
    Da> supposed to see.   
      
   https://twitter.com/arjunsethi81/status/1268966167177289728   
   https://twitter.com/i/status/1269045893015224320   
      
   How much more do you want?   
      
    Da> Can't help it with the Trump hate. That church was burned down by this   
    Da> very small group of rioters. It was meant to be symbolic but who cares   
    Da> right? You hate Trump and will criticize every little move.   
      
   No church was burned down.  Cite a source if you don't   
   believe me.   
      
   Trump, on the other hand, cleared peaceful protesters violently   
   so that he could stage a photo-op.  The pastor of the church is   
   outraged; pretty sure the pastor would know if the church was   
   vandalized by fire.   
      
   "Every little move" is what you right-wing people don't get.   
   It's not little when he does these things; it's a gross violation   
   of his office and the Constitution, and it's a violation of the   
   rights of the citizenry in direct opposition to his sworn oath.   
      
   Now we have police officers from the Bureau of Prisons who   
   aren't wearing identifying insignia and refuse to identify   
   themselves in DC: basically, a secret police.   
      
   I just want to understand why you people hate the Constitution   
   and the freedoms of this country so much.   
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