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From: bliss@mouse-potato.com

On 3/12/21 5:02 AM, Don Kresch wrote:
 > On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 20:26:31 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
 >  scrawled in blood:
 >
 >> On 3/11/21 3:40 PM, Don Kresch wrote:
 >>> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 08:04:28 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
 >>>  scrawled in blood:
 >>>
 >>>> On 3/11/21 5:03 AM, Don Kresch wrote:
 >>>>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:53:32 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
 >>>>>  scrawled in blood:
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> 	If anti-vaxxers die it may not be sad but families will cry
 >>>>>> mothers,sisters, wives and daughters weep while male relatives
will try
 >>>>>> to keep a stiff uppper lip and avoid the tears. Even if you are a
 >>>>>> hopeless person someone will be affected by your death.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> 	Choose life and get vaccinated against the killer dieases.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> 	You mean a disease with a 99.96% survival rate?
 >>>>>
 >>>>> 	Doesn't sound like a very "killer" disease to me. Certainly
 >>>>> not on the level of ebola.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Don
 >>>>> aa#51
 >>>>> o- DNRC
 >>>>> Jedi Slackmaster
 >>>>>
 >>>>          Well survival numbers vary widely depending on age and
initial
 >>>> conditions of the Individual.  It also depends on wealth and access to
 >>>> truly modern medical treatment.   523,000 dead people,

	Now at 530,000 and climbing.

 >>>
 >>> 	Of which, ACCORDING TO THE CDC SO THERE'S NO WHINING ABOUT
 >>> FAKE NEWS, only 6% actually died from it. The other 94% had an average
 >>> of 2.7 other contributing factors. Which means: about 31k actually
 >>> from the virus. Which, IIRC, is slightly less than what the flu kills
 >>> every year. So: yeah. Just not impressed.

	Well you can mess with the figures but plenty of those
with contributing conditions might Not have died if they had no
gotten sick with Covid-19.

 >>>
 >>> 	Also consider that there would be fewer deaths had places like
 >>> New York not *mandated* that old folks homes take covid patients.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>> 	Also anti-vaxxers tend to keep their children from getting
vaccinations
 >>>> against things like Diptheria, which used to kill lots of
 >>>> children,  They depend on Pro-vaxxers and the herd immunity that they
 >>>> develop to keep their children well.
 >>>
 >>> 	Herd immunity can happen in other ways.
 >>>
 >>> Don
 >>> aa#51
 >>> o- DNRC
 >>> Jedi Slackmaster
 >>>
 >>
 >>
 >> 	My ancestors survived the black death in Europe.
 >> 	I may have inherited some immunity but I do not play with ground
 >> squirrels in California.  You are free to move into the distant
 >> countryside and try to develop herd immunity to all sorts of illnesses.
 >> But it will be hard on the children. Some number of my mother's sisters
 >> and brothers died of the Influenza around 1916.
 >
 > 	Are you looking for pity?	

	Not at all. These things did not happen to me.
I never knew those aunts and uncles at all and my mom was
still quite young, an infant so she never knew them.

 >>
 >>         She survived fortunately for me. Otherwise 1937 would
contain one
 >> less birthday. So did her older sister.  I was sheltered in my youth and
 >> sick a lot of the time.  That was the time of the Polio epidemic before
 >> the polio vaccine.  It might not kill you but some of my HS friends had
 >> survived to be lame the rest of their lives.
 >
 > 	Shame.	

         For them it is or was.
 >
 >>
 >> 	In the 1950s I was lucky enough to get the Hong Kong Flu as
 >> it was named by the newspapers.  Later on we would have more varieties
 >> of influenza with a fresh version due every year thanks to the sloppy
 >> duck tending of Asian livestock tenders.
 >
 > 	Amazing how there was no lockdown, and people survived.

	Yes because they had no idea what they were dealing with to start with.
   Hong Kong was not so bad and I was young then and
had incredible recuperative powers.

 >>
 >> 	Then we had the HIV-AIDs which decimated my list of friends and
 >> wiped out the survivors' lists of friends.  People who ignored medical
 >> precautions and played like it was 20 years earlier, young and old died.
 >
 > 	And there was still no lockdown.	

	Sure there was but unless you were paying close attention
you missed it.  It closed gay bath houses and other places for
assignations and anonymous sex.  Bars on the other hand developed
bowls of condoms for the clientele.

 >
 >>
 >> 	So now we have Covid-19 and a large percentage of the population
 >> refuses to follow medically advised precautions and further refuses to
 >> take the vaccines.  Big bunch of sissies afraid of needles.  If they
 >> hold tight to these attitudes pretty soon their will be no Republican
 >> voters.
 >
 > 	And there we have it: partisan bullshit.
 >
 > 	You're part of the problem.

	Which problem is that?  Something like 45% of Republican men are
fearful of the Covid-19 vaccination.  I don't know if they asked the
Democratic party members/supporters.

	The real problem is that a large percentage of survivors
exhibit classic symptoms of Post Virtual Fatigue Syndrome.  They
will have a terrible time as I well know having survived with it
the last 38 years.

	If I didn't have this problem I would not be bothering with
computers and Usenet but riding my motorcycles all over the place and
with a pocket full of cash from my retirement savings.

 > Don
 > aa#51
 > o- DNRC
 > Jedi Slackmaster

	bliss - If it impacts their wallet it is obviously Communist Evil. If
it fills their wallets it is support for American Business.
Not my pov but the newspapers are full of statements.

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