[A note from Lawrence, KS:  This was taken from the alt.conspiracy
section of NEWS on the KU VAX/VMS system.]

     What follows is a transcript of a 45 minute lecture that I
attended on 11-17-89 at the "Whole Life Expo" in Los Angeles, 
California. Speaking was Mr. Milton William Cooper who I first
became acquainted with through a text file I downloaded from a
local computer BBS. The file dealt with the subject of UFOs and our
government's concealment of the truth about them in such a way that
it made a lasting impression on me, which is why I attended his
lecture; to learn more. Please forgive my probable misspelling of
some of the proper names in the transcript which follows and allow
that I have taken it as best I could, word- for-word, from a less
than acceptable micro-cassette recording. 
     If you are as moved by what you are about to read as I was in
hearing it first hand, I ask that you please spread it as far and
wide as possible. Upload it to every BBS in your reach and please,
don't change anything. Also, please give considerable thought to
Mr. Cooper's suggestions as to what we all can do to see that this
information is confirmed by our government to make them stop what
they are up to.  
     Thank you, and now, Milton Cooper:
 
     "For those of you who don't know who I am, I was raised in a
military family. My family, my ancestors, since they came to this
country, have been government people. We have served in the
military, we have been patriots, we have fought in all the wars,
we care about this country and believe in the constitution of the
United States. We know, as many people don't know, that the
Constitution of the United States of America IS the United States
of America! And that's why we've always been ready ... to do the
things needed ... to preserve and protect it." 
     "When I left home I went into the Air Force, the Strategic Air
Command. As a child I'd heard stories from my father and pilots,
other pilots, my father was a pilot, about Foo Fighters, UFOs,
strange craft that were not made on this Earth. And as a kid, you
hear that in passing, and it's neat, and you giggle about it, and
you go out and play "Space Man", and you forget it." 
     "When I was in the Air Force I met men who had participated
in alien crashed-craft recoveries. Now this intrigued me, it
interested me, but it was usually after quite a few bottles of beer
that these stories would come out, and sometimes the next morning
I couldn't remember what the heck the guy said." 
     "When I left the Air Force I went into the Navy, and this is
where everything began to happen for me. I had originally intended
to just go from service to service and do something that very few
people have ever done before. I was a very adventurous, very crazy
... young man, and I thought that that would be a pretty exciting
life. I volunteered for submarines, and while on the submarine
U.S.S. Tyroot, SS-416, on a transit between the Portland/Seattle
area and Pearl Harbor, which was our home port; the Pearl Harbor
sub base, as the port lookout I saw a craft, saucer-shaped, the
size of a Midway class carrier, aircraft carrier, for those of you
who don't know how big that is; it's huge, come up out of the water
approximately 2 1/2 nautical miles off the port bow, which is about
45 degrees to the left of the pointy end of the submarine. It
tumbled slowly on its own axis, and went up into the clouds. It
appeared to be moving slowly to me at a distance of 2 1/2 nautical
miles, but in reality it was moving pretty fast because it came up
out of the water, did a few tumbles and it was gone!" 
     "I then reported it to the officer of the deck. I didn't tell
him what it was that I saw because my Daddy didn't raise no fools
and in case nobody else saw it I didn't want to be the only looney
onboard the ship. So I asked the officer of the deck to help me
cover that area, and he did, which is common for officers and
lookouts to help each other while on bridge watch because they all
hang together if something bad happens. After a few seconds of
watching, the same craft, or another craft exactly like it, came
down out of the clouds, tumbled again on its own axis, and went
into the water. Ensign Ball, who was the officer of the deck, was
literally shocked! What could I say? Seaman Dejeralimo, who was the
starboard lookout, had also witnessed this, and ensign Ball called
the captain to the bridge who was followed by the chief
quartermaster who brought a 35MM camera, and we watched for between
7 and 10 minutes the same craft, or different craft that looked
exactly alike, enter and leave the water. It was an incredible
show. I don't know if they knew we were there, or if they even
cared, but the craft did not glow, they were metal, they were
machines without a doubt, they were obviously intelligently guided,
they were HUGE, and having been in the Air Force and the Navy and
knowing what it takes, I knew without a doubt, and know it today,
that that machine was not made on the face of this Earth. Because
there's nothing that man can make, that can fly through the air at
a speed like that, tumble on its own axis, and enter the water and
effectively fly beneath the sea." 
     "If you've ever been aboard an airplane and then gone aboard
a submarine, I know there's probably some of you in this room who
have visited a submarine at one time or another, you can readily
see just without even any of the technicalities involved how
difficult such a thing would be to do. Where would it be built,
that size? It was absolutely incredible. It changed my life because
then all the stories that I'd heard all my life I knew were true,
and I began seeing the world in a different light." 
     "It wasn't long after that I was trained by Naval security in
intelligence. I was sent to Viet Nam. I was assigned as a patrol
boat captain, first in DaNang harbor, given a crew, given a
multi-million dollar patrol boat. My job was to gather intelligence
from the people who lived around the harbor and the fishermen who
transited the harbor, and maintain the safety and security of the
harbor and the shipping. After about 5-months I was sent up North
to the DMZ, to a place called Qua Vieaf [sp], on the Tacan [sp]
river. Our base camp was at the river mouth. We were only 3-miles
South of the North Vietnamese border and our job was to patrol the
Tacan river from the river mouth to Dang Ha [sp], and then up the
Quang Tree [sp] cutoff to Quang Tree city, again to get to know the
people on the bank, gather intelligence, and to patrol every night
and maintain the safety and security of the river and the river
traffic." 
     "It was while there that I discovered that there was a
tremendous amount of UFO and alien activity in Viet Nam. It was
always reported in official messages as `enemy helicopters.' Now
any of you who know anything about the Viet Nam war know that the
North Vietnamese did not have any helicopters, especially after our
first couple of air raids into North Viet Nam. Even if they had
they would not have been so foolish as to bring them over the DMZ
because that would have insured their demise. Our troops were fired
on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' enemy troops were
fired on occasionally by these `enemy helicopters,' and
occasionally people would disappear. And on one instance that I
know for sure at least one entire village disappeared one night due
to alien activity. The reason they used the term `enemy
helicopters' in messages and dispatches was that in Viet Nam you
could be overrun at any time, no matter where you where. They did
not bring crypto encoding equipment into Viet Nam, I'm talking
about the machinery. What we did is we had crypto tables, and once
we every 24-hours those codes would be no good. So that's what we
used. We also, because of the inability to use crypto transmitting
equipment, had to devise code words such as `enemy helicopters.'" 
     "When I left Viet Nam I was eventually attached to the
headquarters staff of the Commander in Chief of the United States
Pacific Fleet at Macalappa, [sp] Hawaii, which is a little hill
overlooking Pearl Harbor, it's a beautiful white building up there,
and I was specifically attached to the Intelligence Briefing Team
of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet." 
     "It was during this tour of duty that, in the course of my
duties, documents were placed in my hands that were so unbelievable
and so incredible that it took me quite a while to adjust to the
fact that what I was seeing was real. Now for those of you who
don't understand how I could come to see this information let me
give you a little short course in security clearance and "the need
to know" and how you get to see classified information if you're
in the military or in the government, it doesn't matter which, the
rules are the same." 
     "Number one you need a security clearance, and you've got to
have clearance at the level that the information you want to see
is classified at. In this instance it was classified `Top Secret,
Magic, Restricted Information,' which I came to find out later is
the highest security classification in the Nation. To get that type
of clearance, all you have to have is a Federal Bureau of
Investigation background check, which takes about six months and
they send federal agents to your home, to your old schools, to all
your teachers, to your friends, to everybody you put down on your
security clearance forms, to all your old addresses, your
neighbors, everybody that you've worked for, and it's embarrassing
because they don't tell them what they're checking on. They just
show them their identification and start asking questions and
that's when you find out who's your friend and who's not, because
a lot of people get scared and think, `Bill just robbed a bank and
I'm not talkin' to him anymore.'" 
     "Now once you get that it's called a `B.I.' and for those of
you who have received a copy of my service record look on the first
page, the DD-214 where it says `Security Clearance,' you will see
the term `B.I.' That's a `Bureau of Investigation' clearance. Now
at that point, you have the clearance for everything including Top
Secret and above. What determines what you get to see is your need
to know, and the job that you have determines what your need to
know is." 
     "I was assigned to the Intelligence Briefing Team of the
Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, who had to
know everything concerning his area of operations which was onehalf
of the Earth's surface; the Indian ocean, the Pacific ocean, and
all the land masses in between. Believe it or not, if we go to war,
if we ever go to war, it's the United States Navy that strikes the
first blow and attempts to keep the enemy at bey while we can get
ourselves together, at least historically. Nuclear weapons have
kind of done away with that concept, but military commanders like
to talk about it anyway." 
     "Because of this, and you have no conception of the amount of
material and information that an area commander has to know, it's
unbelievable, and he has to keep track of this, he has to keep on
top of it. He has to know what's happening, he has to make the
right decisions. Because it's almost humanly impossible for anyone
to do that, they have what's called a briefing team, and it's our
job to make sure that he has the correct information, all the time,
on a 24-hour basis. And every morning, between 8 and 9 AM, we would
give a briefing which covered everything that happened in the
previous 24-hours, and everything scheduled to happen in the next
24-hours, and all the pertinent intelligence reports that we had
received since the last briefing that he needed to know and that
his staff members needed to know. Occasionally we would get
messages marked `Top Secret, Magic, Restricted Information,' and
it would be coded in such a way that all you had were answers to
questions which you didn't know what the questions were so you
really didn't know what the message was all about." 
     "But eventually I found myself in possession, holding two
documents; one called `Project Grudge,' another one called
`Operation Majority.' Project Grudge contained the history of alien
involvement since around 1936, and it began talking about Germany's
involvement with a crashed-disk that they had recovered in 1936 and
were attempting to duplicate the technology. They were not
successful despite what all these Nazi hunters want to tell you.
If they had been successful, we would not have won the war, because
you cannot beat those weapons! You cannot outfly those craft, you
can't even think about it with conventional aircraft. If Germany
had been successful, we would now have a German flag up in front
of this podium." 
     "They did make some headway. When we went into Punta Mundy
[sp] we captured documents, we got some scientists, we got some
hardware. The Russians also got some documents, some scientists,
and some hardware. It wasn't until 1947 that we were able to
capture a craft, a whole craft, not all together but it was
everything. And that occurred near the city of Roswell, New Mexico.
There were dead aliens recovered from the craft. In Project Grudge
I saw photographs of these dead aliens, of the craft, I saw
photographs of live aliens, I saw photographs of autopsies,
internal organs, I saw photographs of the alien designated
`E.B.'[or Ebe] which was held in captivity from 1949 until June the
2nd, 1952 when he died. I saw the history of what they had been
able to at that time put together, from incidents in the 1800's
which involved aliens and their craft." 
     "I saw the names of projects. I saw a project that was to fly
recovered alien craft that had been recovered intact and undamaged,
and some of them were recovered intact and undamaged, and how that
happened I have no idea. It was called `Project Redlight,' and
first was conducted from the Tonopah test range in the Nevada test
sight and then was moved to a specially built area, ordered built
by president Eisenhower, called `Area-51,' code named `Dreamland,'
in the Groom [sp] dry lake area of the Nevada test sight, by secret
executive order. It doesn't exist officially, if you ask anyone,
or if you write letters to the government they will tell you it
doesn't exist. However if you go out there at several places and
see it, fly outside the boundaries and look down and see it, you
know it's there, but according to the government it doesn't exist."

     "The project to fly, test fly these craft, was ongoing until
sometime in 1962 when a craft blew up not far from the test sight,
in the air, and the explosion was seen over a three-state area. The
pilots were killed, they had no idea what had happened or why the
craft blew up, but they put Project Redlight on hold until a later
date when the aliens supplied us with 3-craft and personnel to help
us learn how to fly these craft. That project is ongoing and we now
have not only alien craft that we are flying, we have craft we have
built, using the captured technology, and some of the UFO's that
people report seeing in the United States, and maybe even
elsewhere, are flown by United States personnel." 
     "That may come as a shock to you. We have technology way
beyond the limits of what we have been told. A lot of our
development technologically, since the end of World War II, has
been due to the exchange of technology which occurs in the area
called `Area-51' on a regular basis ... ongoing." 
     "When James Oberth, professor Oberth retired, many of you
don't know who he is ... not too many space people in here.
Professor Oberth was probably one of the greatest rocket scientists
and space commentists that ever lived. When he retired, the
government gave him a special award, there was a press conference,
all kinds of ceremony, and when he got up to speak he said,
`Gentlemen,' and I quote professor Oberth, he said, `Gentlemen, we
cannot take credit for all the technological developments that we
have had in the last decade. We have had help,' and that's where
he stopped." 
     "One of the reporters raised his hand and said, `Professor
Oberth, can you tell us what other country helped us?'" 
     "He said, `It was those little guys from out in space,' and
then he got down and and would not comment any further. Now this
occurred in 1959. I can go on and on but time doesn't allow it." 
     "I will tell you ladies and gentlemen that there are all kinds
of things going on all the time, we are making rapid progress in
exposing this. Since I have begun talking, people have been coming
out of the woodwork at a rapid rate, who know and have pieces of
this puzzle, and are helping us to put it together, because I don't
have all the answers. I saw an awful lot of material, I have
remembered an awful lot of it, I have probably, in my remembering,
made some mistakes, and I guarantee you they're minor ones, if I
have." 
     "We have just recently, for those of you who didn't believe
that the Jason Society of the Jason Scholars, the secret group
existed, we now have a letter from the Pentagon, with 51 names of
the Jason Scholars, an admission from the Pentagon that they hold
the highest security clearances in the nation, an admission from
the Pentagon that they hold the protocol rank of Rear Admiral, and
are treated as such on any military installation or in any
government office. There are 6 Nobel Prize winners on that list,
there are the elite of the elite of the scientific world, they are
the only ones who really know the truth about the technology today
and about the real science of physics, because the one that we're
being taught all the time ... If you send your kids to college to
learn physics you're wasting your money because they're teaching
them stuff that doesn't work, it's not true, it's not real. Gravity
is not what we think it is. There IS a Unified Theory! We already
know what it is, it's what makes these craft work. It's absolutely
incredible what's going on." 
     "How many of you keep up with Billy Goodman's show on KVEG out
of Las Vegas? For those of you who don't, I would try tuning in on
any night between 10:00 PM and 1:00 AM. It's 840 on your AM dial,
and the subject every night are those subjects that no other media
person in the United States will touch with a 10 foot pole, every
single night except Saturday night. It's the only show that you can
call in and talk to another caller, you've got 3-minutes to say
whatever you want to say as long as you don't cuss or swear or
slander anyone, and every night they're helping to expose this." 
     "When John Lear and I first said what was going on out at
Groom Lake everybody said, `You're nuts, there's nothing going on
out at Groom Lake!' The listeners of the Billy Goodman radio show
put together an excursion and went up to Groom Lake and they all,
ever since, every night, they go up there and watch them test fly
the alien craft ... every night! The first night they had 100
people there. And 100 people saw 4 alien craft fly, doing things
that no airplane and no helicopter can do. Now they don't tell us
anymore that there's nothing happening at Groom Lake. What they
tell us now is there's no such thing as aliens, it's all government
secret projects. That's okay because we'll prove that wrong too
eventually, it just takes awhile. Because where we WERE ... it's
not where we're AT, and I'm really happy about that." 
     "Now, if you want to see what's happening right now, keep
watching your movies, keep watching your television commercials,
your alien programs on television, read Whitley Streiber's
`Majestic' which is a part of the contingency plan called
`Majestic' to test the reaction of the population to the presence
of aliens on the Earth. And I have just finished my study of
Whitley Streiber's book `Majestic,' and I'm gonna tell you right
now that most of the documents in there, that he says are fiction,
are real documents that came right out of Project Grudge. It is
part of the government's campaign to leak information out in ways
that they can always deny that it's real. There's only one thing
wrong with the information in that book, the stories of the
characters in there I know nothing about. What I'm talking about
are the supposed government documents that he has in that book. I'm
telling you tonight they're real. Those are some of the same
documents that I saw in Project Grudge back between 1970 & 1973,
and where we have wondered before, now we know that Whitley
Streeper IS working for the government. And we had a suspicion
anyway because in the front of his book he states that he got
information and was helped by the research team of Moore,
Shanderey, and Friedman. William Moore has publicly admitted on
July the 1st that he is an agent of the United States Government,
and we know that the others are too." 
     "This is gonna come out, and the reason they're doing it the
way they're doing it is they know eventually you're gonna find out
that it's all true and real. They're desensitizing you so that
you're not shocked, so that there's no collapse of society as we
know it, so that the religious structure doesn't fall to pieces,
so that the stock market doesn't go crazy, because these were their
original fears. Now, there's nothing we can do about the last one
because it's already happened, there will be a segment of the
population that worships the aliens, even though they're no
different than us they're just from somewhere else, and they may
look a little different. They are not gods. But there are already
people worshiping the aliens and they predicted this would happen
when they slapped the secret stamp all over all this stuff." 
     "You know, there's really nothing wrong with what's been
happening except for 3 things;" [Cooper forgot to mention the 3rd
thing, or was sidetracked, or included it into the 2nd thing.] 
     Number one, when they decided to keep it secret they needed
to finance it, they couldn't tell the public so they couldn't tell
Congress. They decided to finance it with the sale, importation and
sale, of drugs. Now in the documents that I read, in Operation
Majority, it specifically stated that when George Bush was the
president and CEO of Sapata [sp] Oil, he, in conjunction with the
CIA, organized the first large scale drug importation into this
country from South and Central America by fishing boat, to the
offshore oil platforms of Sapata Oil, and then from there into the
beach, thus bypassing all Customs inspections and law enforcement
inspections of any kind. They are still bringing in drugs, to a
limited extent, in this manner. Another manner is by CIA contract
aircraft which, one of their bases of landing is Homestead [sp] Air
Force Base in Florida. We have affidavits from air controllers who
have vectored the planes in, who have made sure that they're not
interfered with in any way. We have affidavits from personnel at
Homestead Air Force Base who say the planes have been met by Jeb
Bush, who's George Bush's son. We have affidavits from people who
work in the Gulf of Mexico, in the offshore oil business, that yes
indeed, the drugs are coming in, at least some of them, from the
offshore oil platforms." 
     From the audience came a clear statement, "Just say no?" 
     "Pardon? ... Right! Just Say No! Well that's what we're gonna
do ladies and gentlemen with your help ... we are going to say NO,
no more! And you gotta do it, you gotta act. You either gotta act,
or watch your country go down the tubes." 
     "Now, that's one of the things that's wrong. The next thing
that's wrong is, to keep the secret, they killed a lot of people
who tried to leak it out. And if I hadn't done it the way that I
did it, you wouldn't be seeing me anywhere standing or walking on
this Earth now. They killed president Kennedy and during the
workshop, for those of you haven't seen the tape, I will show you,
on the tape, who shot the president and why. Between '70 and '73,
in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President Kennedy
ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs to the
American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal
the presence of aliens to the American people within the following
year. His assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the
Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in
Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Division-5 of the FBI, the
Secret Service, and the office of Naval Intelligence. President
Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was William
Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered
assassination pistol that was specially built by the CIA to
assassinate people at close range. It fired an explosive pellet
which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain,
and that is why, in the documents, it stated that President
Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, you will
find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so
that they would not find the particles of the exploding pellet or
the shellfish poison in his brain which would have proved
conclusively that Lee Harvy Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact,
Lee Harvy Oswald never fired a shot, he was the patsy." 
     Mr. Cooper paused briefly, and a lady in the audience asked
the obvious question, "Why haven't YOU been assassinated?" 
     "If they were to kill me right now, what would you think?"
Cooper posed. 
     "That it's the truth," several people chimed. 
     "I've got `em right where I want `em. If they touch me,
everyone who's ever heard me talk is gonna be absolutely enraged
and is gonna know that everything I've said is true. As long as
they don't touch me there's gonna be some of you who are always
gonna be wondering. But eventually we're gonna bring enough proof
out, and if you're here during the workshop you're gonna see an
awful lot of it that's gonna prove to you that it's true. It's
real. And it's happening!" 
     "Okay, I've tried to cover a lot of stuff, just briefly,
because there's no time in 45 minutes to get into anything very
much." 
     Mr. Cooper then announced the scheduled workshop session the
following day in which tangible proofs could be seen but
regrettably I was unable to attend. He then opened up the floor to
questions and answers. 
     A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of
the room which in essence asked, "What about all the people in the
press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assassination?
Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come
forward? There must have been plenty." 
     "There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all
murdered within 2-years of the event. The odds of that happening
are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied. 
     Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot
Kennedy?" 
     "Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots
fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't
kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was
fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The
other 2-shots came from directly behind the limousine, not the
school book depository building, and hit Governor Connelly.
Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as
a `can do' man, because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth
shut." 
     "How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand
side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's
brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been
virtually impossible ...  another person asked. 
     Mr. Cooper seized the gist of his question and injected, "For
those of you who have been listening to all these talk show hosts,
whose job it is to be a talk show host, and who have not done any
legitimate research into this, if you come to the workshop, I will
show you, on the tape, how it was done. You will see that Kennedy
was, in fact slumped over against Jackie, his head was turned [this
direction], it was very simple, it was easy and you will see it
with your own eyes." 
     Another muffled, off-mike question from a member of the
audience inquiring why no one else had come forward with the
information Mr. Cooper was disseminating, and why those who knew
it had kept it secret for so long was quickly answered, "It hasn't
been, I'm talkin' about it now. Bill English was talkin' about it
8-years ago but everybody laughed at Bill English. John Lear's been
talkin' about it for 3-years and everybody laughed at him. Now
there's so many people have been talkin' about it, people are
startin' to listen and it's about time. Because it's about time we
that we quit being fools, and that's exactly what they think we are
and we prove it to them every day." 
     Almost all of the questions from the audience were to faint
to hear. The next one dealt with the alien technology and asked in
essence, "Hasn't any one else [other than the government] come up
with the energy technology that the aliens have?" to which Mr.
Cooper answered, "There's been quite a few people who've come up
with it and they've ALL been stopped, and they'll all continue to
be stopped. Because once you have it you have FREE ENERGY. Once you
have free energy they no longer have power over you. You
understand? That's why they stop it." 
     Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination
which was examined greatly by experts, why didn't THEY conclude
that Kennedy's driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked, "Examined
by WHO greatly?", and continued, "Most of the film that you can
purchase has that segment cut out, and you can always tell it by
the person running in the background, they'll run up to here ...
all of a sudden they'll be down here ... running. You will see in
most of the clips that you've ever seen on television, or in the
movies, or that you're able to get your hands on, you'll see
William Greer start to turn like this ..., then a muffled comment
from the audience, then Cooper answered, "That's because they
clipped it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you most of you,
every time you've seen the clip on television, never looked at the
driver anyway. If you're really honest with yourself, and with me,
you know your eyes were right on Kennedy." 
     A woman asked if any of the alien technology was being used
in present-day military equipment and was answered, "Yes, there's
a lot of alien technology contained in the Stealth bomber, that's
right. The Stealth fighter was flying for 10-years before you even
knew it existed." 
     As the hour drew late another question, more clearly stated,
was asked of Mr. Cooper by a woman closer to my ears, "Before you
let us all out of here, there's a bunch of us here wondering what
can we all do to help bring this all out?" 
     A single word, "REVOLT" issued from several listeners
simultaneously but Cooper responded, "Don't revolt. What you need
to do is what you should have been doing all along. You need to get
involved with your government. The first thing you need to do is
purchase a copy of the Constitution, which I know that most of you
don't have anywhere in your house, and if I were to go around this
room and ask each person what the Constitution says, most of you
couldn't tell me what the Constitution says from your grocery bill.
And that's the truth! And that IS your country! So if you don't
know what your Constitution is you're dead already, so the first
thing you do is you get a copy of your Constitution. The second
thing you do is you learn it! The third thing you do is you start
calling your senators and your representatives, and the President
of the United States and you start leaning on them, and you tell
them, `Unless you straighten up the government, and unless we start
getting the truth, and I mean the whole truth, and no more of this
baloney, this's the last job you're ever gonna have, period. And
I'll do everything in my power to make sure that comes true.' And
then write them, frequently, saying the same thing. And then when
they're in your area, in their area offices, take a little
delegation and go see them, and make them understand that they're
gonna be living in poverty because they're not gonna have a job
anymore come election day. You see, the secret government may own
the executive branch, but you people, all of us, we own the
Congress, and the Congress makes the laws, and the Congress can
impeach the entire executive branch! You also have the right to
petition the government for a redress of injuries. So you ARE
powerful, you've just forgotten that you're powerful, you've
forgotten that that vote that you haven't been doing every time
election comes around, that vote has abdicated your power. That
vote you did not cast abdicated your power and gave it to those who
are subverting the Constitution and are ruining this country." 
     A gentleman then asked, "What was traded to the aliens for
their technology?" 
     "People and animals," replied Cooper succinctly. 
     Another man asked, "Is the Soviet Union in on any of this?" 
     "The Soviet Union and the United States of America have been
close allies since the end of World War II and have been closely
participating in the secret space program all this time. The
Soviets have the same thing we have, yes. What you see happening
in the Soviet block right now is not the result of people standing
up and saying, `We want to be free.' It's the result of the
international bankers saying, `You tear down these barriers, and
you meet the West half way, give your people some freedom, the West
is gonna take some freedom away from their people so that we can
put together a one-world economic system ... and have all the
power. That's what's happening! If you don't believe it, stick
around and watch it!" 
     A dubious woman then asked, "Why was the shellfish poison
necessary? A lot of his brain was blown off anyway." 
     Cooper: "The shellfish poison? If you go to kill someone, one
thing I've learned, I learned it real good, I learned it especially
good when I went to Viet Nam; just `cause you shoot someone doesn't
mean they're gonna die. And if they don't die, they're gonna be
MAD. And if they've got a gun, you're dead. So you want the first
time to be the last time. So if you really want to to kill somebody
you don't play around. If you REALLY want to kill somebody ... you
KILL them, you don't play, you make sure that when you shoot them,
they're dead. That way they can't hurt you, can't hurt you at all."

     Regrettably, the next question was totally unintelligible, I
was thankful however that Mr. Cooper had a good public address
system to amplify his reply, "The first moon landing was May the
22nd, 1962 ... or excuse me, that was the first landing on Mars.
I'm sorry, May the 22nd, 1962 was the winged probe that used a
hydrozine propeller, flew around approximately 3-orbits and landed
on May the 22nd, 1962, was a joint United States / Russian
endeavor. The first time that we landed on the moon was sometime
during the ... probably middle 50's, because at the time when
President Kennedy stated that he wanted a man to set foot on the
moon by the end of the decade we already had a base there." 
     "What about Mars?" came another quick question. 
     "We have a base on Mars also," Cooper calmly replied. 
     "When did that happen?" 
     "I don't know the exact date but I know the project's name,
it was `Adam and Eve'." 
     "How long have you known about this?" 
     "Well, I revealed it publicly for the first time on July the
2nd, 1989, and within 3-weeks of the time I revealed it publicly,
the government, to get the American people not to listen to me,
came out and said that they planned to build a base on the moon and
a colony on Mars. Now, 3-days previous to my speech,
representatives from NASA said, `We can never have a colony on
Mars, it's impossible that there's a colony on Mars because Mars
is a dead planet.' And it's NOT a dead planet, they've lied to you
about Mars." 
     "My name is Dave [unintelligible], I'm a representative of the
Crystic Institute, and I'd like to know why it was that when we
sent a representative down to your home, at your request, you
failed to produce any documentation to substantiate your
allegations." 
     "In the first place it was NOT at my request, I have never
contacted the Crystic Institute in my life. I was on the Carol
Hemingway Show, she contacted the Crystic institute, she told
Daniel Shehan [sp] that I had just said something about Bush and
drugs on her show. HE called ME and told me he wanted to send an
investigator, in fact he told me to even help the investigator
because he was new at the job, his name was Wayne Nelson, he is a
very good gentleman, he stayed at my house for 2-days, slept
overnight on my couch, I gave him everything I had. I never told
Daniel Shehan that I had any documents and I never told Wayne
Nelson that I had any documents. In fact what I told Wayne Nelson,
and I quote, `Wayne, if I did have the documents I couldn't admit
it and I don't know you from Adam, and I don't know Daniel Shehan
from Adam and what makes you think I would give them to you.' Who
am I going to give them to and how quick are they going to
disappear, that was my thought. Wayne Nelson also came to my house
with a stack of documents this thick already substantiating the
presence of aliens and extraterrestrial craft on this planet, and
they are keeping it a secret, because they're afraid somebody'll
laugh at them and they'll loose their credibility." 
     "We need some patriots in this country, not people trying to
make a name for themselves, trying to expose some drug runners,
because those are just the bag-men. The real crook is in the White
House! And you can tell THAT to Daniel Shehan!" 
     "Why didn't Jackie Kennedy report [the source of the lethal
shot]?" asked another audience member. 
     "Who's she gonna tell? The Secret Service just killed her
husband and they're assigned to protect the President. Also, who
had her children? The same Secret Service had her children at the
time." 
     "Wasn't the craft at Roswell, New Mexico destroyed and all the
aliens killed?" another young man asked. 
     "All the aliens were dead but the craft was not completely
destroyed, it was severely damaged yes." 
     On an unrelated note an older gentleman asked, "Does that mean
that `Alternative-3' is true?" 
     "Alternative-3 is absolutely true and so is `Alternative-2'." 
     Then a man in his late 20's or early 30's raised his hand,
said something I couldn't hear, and was apparently recognized by
Mr. Cooper who asked him to take the podium and address the
audience. 
     "What I said was that I thanked him [Cooper] very much for
coming forward and saying something. A lot of my friends out here
know that I was involved in the United States Special Forces, UFO
Tracking and Research from the years 1971 to 1975. My name is
Richard Murray, I was based out of the 71st Tac Controll Flight,
McDill Air Force Base, Tampa, Florida. We were `Mobile Radar
Command,' that was combat and war ready. We could be loaded on
aircraft within an hour and many times were taken into areas [to]
set up radar. A lot of times we were set up around Egland [sp] Air
Force Base because that's where they have the `Altered Temperature
Weather Control', where they can test various aircraft for their
shrinkage and their dimension change during altered temperature.
So, you know, I was told to shut up twice in 1982 and they finally
threatened my parents life so I stayed quiet, and, that's when
Wendel Stevens was taken off the streets ... Just like that! And
I hid for quite awhile, and decided to come back out when I heard
that you're [Cooper] of such high rank as you were, and I felt just
in saying that your credentials are true, and that what you have
to say, everything you've said here today, I've heard before behind
closed doors. And you've really tied the link for me to the Kennedy
killing. And there's a few more links that have to go on with the
Columbia Cartel and the money laundering. I think there's more than
one cartel involved, and they're shutting one of them down so one
can maintain a power, it just seems to be the way it works." 
     A muffled question then came from someone in the audience
regarding the person referred to as "Colonel Stevens." 
     "Uh, Colonel Stevens is out of jail now," replied Murray who
was quickly asked another question I couldn't hear to which he
answered, "I sure hope to hell so, he is a wonderful man and I give
him my utmost respect and it was one of the saddest days in my life
to see what happened to him happen to him. But I don't care what
they say about Wendel Stevens, in my heart you can't discredit that
man to me. I don't care who the hell you are. I won't listen to it,
I don't give a shit if he was screwin' babies. You know ... that
doesn't ... he's not that kind of a man, I don't care what you say,
I know him personally." 
     The lecture was then essentially over. The "Alternative-2 and
-3" that were referred to briefly are, to the best of my knowledge,
two government contingency plans and I don't know which is which,
to 1: Declare Martial Law and invalidate the Constitution on the
premise that a terrorist group had entered the country with a
Nuclear weapon with plans to detonate it in a major city. All
dissidents would be rounded up and placed in concentration camps
and the press and media would be nationalized. All this, if the
information becomes public before they want it to or if the aliens
attempt a takeover, and 2: Another contingency plan to contain or
delay the release of this information, the details of which I am
probably wrong about anyway. 
     My own personal reaction to Milton William Cooper; Mr. Cooper
is a man who appears to be in his late fourties, of medium height
and weight, and was dressed casually when I saw him. His hairline
was receding slightly and he carried himself with confidence and
purpose. Bill Cooper, as he was called by several in attendance,
is not a professional speaker. His presentation lacked the polish
of repeated deliveries which all the other lectures I heard during
the Expo. had, but what it lacked in fine tuning was easily made
up for in its content. Weather or not everyone in the audience was
convinced of his sincerity I do not know, but the thunderous peal
of applause which exploded as he concluded the session spoke for
me and the majority of those in attendance. I am convinced beyond
any reasonable doubt that Bill Cooper believes everything he said,
and I'm about as skeptical as they come. 
     Please read the attached file written by Milton William Cooper
which describes some of the government operations, projects, and
code names that pertain to the above transcript. Perhaps from the
two documents you can reach your own conclusions as to what
"Alternative-2 and -3 are. The following is the original file
"OPER-MAJ.TXT" which introduced Mr. Cooper to me. 
     OPERATION MAJORITY 
     FINAL RELEASE 
     THERE WILL BE NO CORRECTIONS TO THIS FILE 
     C COPYRIGHT 1989 BY MILTON WILLIAM COOPER 
     ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 
     YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO QUOTE FROM THIS INFORMATION IN PRESS
RELEASES, PERIODICALS, AND SPEECHES.
     INCLUSION IN ANY OTHER MEDIA REQUIRES MY EXPRESS WRITTEN
PERMISSION.  
     
      This file contains the absolute true information regarding
the alien presence on earth and the US Government's involvement
with the aliens.
     This file contains only the information as I saw it and only
my information.
     It does not contain any information from any other source. 
     It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to
this release in a manner which would deceive the Government until
someone was able to independently confirm my identity, my
employment, my service record, my intelligence background, the
identity of the person to which I gave the information in 1972, his
acknowledgment of the information and when it was given to him,
that the information is correct, that I have not seen him since
1974, and that I have not communicated with him in any form since
1976.
     This was necessary because this file is my death warrant if
MJ-12 continues to operate in a manner consistent with its history.

     All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by
2 different people who have no connection with each other. I will
only list one for obvious reasons. 
     Tony Pelham, Journalist 
     Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspaper) 
     300 West Boston 
     Las Vegas, Nevada
     89102 
     The original information that I first released was not much
MAJI that I was not a threat long enough to have independent
verification of the facts before I risked death. [TRANSMISSION
GARBLED]
     I wish to make it absolutely clear that I do not consider
myself a hero.
     I believe that most of you would do the same thing if you knew
the truth.
     I gave an oath that I would uphold and protect the
Constitution of the United States of America and I take that oath
very seriously.
     I am doing no more now than I did when I fought in Vietnam.
     I am doing my duty. 
     Please make copies of this file and send it to your
Congressman, your Senator, the Attorney General of the United
States, and to the Supreme Court.
     Send it also to everyone you know.
     Attach copies of the Bill English file and John Lears file.
     Send anything else you may have which tends to support the
information. 
     I, Milton William Cooper, 1311 S. Highland #205, Fullerton,
California, 92632, (714) 680-9537, do solemnly swear that the
information contained in this file is true and correct to the best
of my knowledge.
     I swear that I saw this information in 1972 in the performance
of my duties as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the
Commander In Chief of the Pacific Fleet as a Petty Officer in the
US Navy.
     I swear that I underwent hypnotic regression in order to make
the information as accurate as possible.
     I swear that I can and will take a lie detector test or any
other test of any reputable person's choosing in order to confirm
this information.
     I swear that I can and will undergo hypnotic regression
conducted by any reputable and qualified Doctor of any reputable
person's choosing in order to confirm this information.
     I will not, however submit to any test or hypnosis by anyone
who is now or has ever been connected with the Government in any
capacity for obvious reasons. 
     The following is brief listing of everything that I personally
saw and know from 1972 and does not contain any input from any
other source whatsoever. 
     MAJESTY was listed as the code word for the President of the
United States for communications concerning this information. 
     OPERATION MAJORITY is the name of the operation responsible
for every aspect, project, and consequence of alien presence on
earth. 
     GRUDGE Contains 16 volumes of documented information collected
from the beginning of the United States investigation of
Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO's) and Identified Alien Crafts
(IAC).
     The project was funded by CIA confidential funds
(nonappropriated) and money from the illicit drug trade.
Participation in the illegal drug trade was justified in that it
would identify and eliminate the weak elements of our society. The
purpose of project GRUDGE was to collect all scientific,
technological, medical and intelligence information from UFO/IAC
sightings and contacts with alien life forms.
     This orderly file of collected information has been used to
advance the United States Space Program. 
     MJ-12 is the name of the secret control group.
     President Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as
THE JASON SOCIETY (JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts,
evidence, technology, lies and deception and find the truth of the
alien question.
     The society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the
country in 1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12.
     MJ-12 has total control over everything. They are designated
by the codes J-1, J-2, etc all the way through the members of the
Jason Society. 
     The director of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director
of MJ-12.
     MJ-12 is responsible only to the President.
     MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade.
     This was done to hide funding and thus keep the secret from
the Congress and the people of the United States.
     It was justified in that it would identify and eliminate the
weak elements of our society.
     The cost of funding the alien connected projects is higher
than anything you can imagine.
     MJ-12 assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them
that he was going to tell the public all the facts of the alien
presence.
     He was killed by the Secret Service agent driving his car and
it is plainly visible in the film held from public view. 
     A secret meeting place was constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND
and it was described as only accessible by air.
     It contains full living, recreational, and other facilities
for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY.
     It is code named "THE COUNTRY CLUB". Only those with TOP
SECRET/MAJIC clearance are allowed to go there. 
     MAJI is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE.
     All information, disinformation, and intelligence is gathered
and evaluated by this agency.
     This agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates
in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence
Agency.
     This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects
are under its control.
     MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12. 
     SIGMA is the project which first established communications
with the aliens and is still responsible for communications. 
     PLATO is the project responsible for Diplomatic relations with
the aliens.
     This project secured a formal treaty (illegal under the
Constitution) with the aliens.
     The terms were that the aliens would give us technology.
     In return we agreed to keep their presence on earth a secret,
not to interfere in any way with their actions, and to allow them
to abduct humans and animals.
     The aliens agreed to furnish MJ-12 with a list of abductees
on a periodic basis. 
     MAJIC is the security classification and clearance of all
alien connected material, projects, and information.
     MAJIC means MAJI Controlled. 
     AQUARIUS is a project which compiled the history of alien
presence and their interaction with Homo Sapiens upon this planet
for the last 25,000 years and culminating with the Basque people
who live in the mountainous country on the border of France and
Spain and the Syrians. 
     GARNET is the project responsible for control of all
information and documents regarding this subject and accountability
of the information and documents. 
     PLUTO is a project to evaluate all UFO/ IAC information
pertaining to space telZk{k+9kR [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] 
     POUNCE is the project formed to recover all downed/ crashed
craft and aliens. 
     REDLIGHT is the project to test fly recovered alien craft.
     It is conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada.
     It was aided when the aliens gave us craft and helped us fly
them.
     The initial project was somewhat successful in that we flew
a recovered craft but it blew up in the air and the pilots were
killed.
     The project was suspended at that time until the aliens agreed
to help us. 
     SNOWBIRD was established as a cover for project REDLIGHT.
Several flying saucer type craft were built using conventional
technology.
     They were unveiled to the press and flown in front of the
press.
     The purpose was to explain accidental sightings or disclosure
of REDLIGHT as having been the SNOWBIRD craft. 
     LUNA is the alien base on the far side of the Moon.
     It was seen and filmed by the Apollo Astronauts.
     A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the
very large alien craft described in sighting reports as MOTHER
SHIPS exist there. 
     NRO is the National Recon Organization based at Fort Carson,
Colorado.
     It is responsible for security for all alien or alien craft
connected projects. 
     DELTA is the designation for the specific arm of the NRO which
is especially trained and tasked with security of these projects. 
     JOSHUA is a project to develop a low frequency pulsed sound
generating weapon.
     It was said that this weapon would be effective against the
alien craft and beam weapons. 
     EXCALIBUR is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases.
It is to be a missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of
Tuff/hard packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no
operational damage.
     Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must
not deviate in excess of 50 meters from designated target.
     The device will carry a 1 megaton nuclear warhead. 
     ALIENS, there were 4 types of aliens mentioned in the papers.
A LARGE NOSED GREY with whom we have the treaty, the GREY reported
in abductee cases that works for the LARGE NOSED GREY, a blond
human like type described as the NORDIC, a red haired human like
type called the ORANGE.
     The home of the aliens were described as being a star in the
Constellation of Orion, Barnards star, and Zeta Riticuli 1&2.
     I cannot remember even under hypnosis which alien belongs to
which star. 
     EBE is the name or designation given to the live alien
captured at the 1949 Roswell crash.
     He died in captivity. 
     KRLL OR KRLLL OR CRLL OR CRLLL pronounced Crill or Krill was
the hostage left with us at the first Holloman landing as a pledge
that the aliens would carry out their part of the basic agreement
reached during that meeting.
     KRLL gave us the foundation of the yellow book which was
completed by the guests at a later date.
     KRLL became sick and was nursed by Dr. G. Mendoza who became
the expert on alien biology and medicine. KRLL later died.
     His information was disseminated under the pseudonym O.H. Cril
or Crill. 
     GUESTS were aliens exchanged for humans who gave us the
balance of the yellow book.
     At the time I saw the information there were only 3 left
alive.
     They were called (P&#'s) Alien Life Forms.
     [TRANSMISSION GARBLED] 
     RELIGION
     The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through
hybridization.
     The papers said that RH-blood was proof of this.
     They further claimed to have created all four major religions.
     They showed a hologram of the crucifixion of Christ which the
Government filmed.
     They claim that Jesus was created by them. 
     ALIEN BASES exist in the four corners area of Utah, Colorado,
New Mexico, and Nevada.
     Six bases were described in the 1972 papers, all on indian
reservations and all in the four corners area. The base near Dulce
was one of them. 
     MURDER
     The documents stated that many military and government
personnel had been terminated (murdered without due process of law)
when they had attempted to reveal the secret. 
     CRAFT RECOVERIES
     The documents stated that many craft had been recovered.
     The early ones from Roswell, Aztec, Roswell again, Texas,
Mexico, and other places. 
     GENERAL DOOLITTLE made a prediction that one day we would have
to reckon with the aliens and the document stated that it appeared
that General Doolittle was correct. 
     ABDUCTIONS were occurring long before 1972.
     The document stated that humans and animals were being
abducted and or mutilated.
     Many vanished without a trace.
     They were taking sperm and ova samples, tissue, performed
surgical operations, implanted a spherical device 40 to 80 microns
in size near the optic nerve in the brain and all attempts to
remove it resulted in the death of the patient.
     The document estimated that 1 in every 40 people had been
implanted.
     This implant was said to give the aliens total control of that
human. 
     CONTINGENCY PLAN SHOULD THE INFORMATION BECOME PUBLIC OR
SHOULD THE ALIENS ATTEMPT A TAKEOVER. 
     This plan called for a public announcement that a terrorist
group had entered the United States with an Atomic weapon.
     It would be announced that the terrorists planned to detonate
the weapon in a major city.
     Martial Law would be declared and all persons with implants
would be rounded up along with all dissidents and would be placed
into concentration camps.
     The press, radio, and TV would be nationalized and controlled.
Anyone attempting to resist would be arrested or killed. 
     CONTINGENCY PLAN TO CONTAIN OR DELAY RELEASE OF INFORMATION 
     This plan called for the use of MAJESTIC TWELVE as a
disinformation ploy to delay and confuse the release of information
should anyone get close to the truth.
     It was selected because of the similarity of spelling and the
similarity to MJ-12.
     It was designed to confuse memory and to result in a fruitless
search for material which did not exist. 
     SOURCE OF MATERIAL CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENTS WHICH I SAW 
     The source of the material was an ONI counter-intelligence
operation against MJ-12 in order for the Navy to find out the truth
of what was really going on.
     The Navy (at that time or at least the Navy that I worked for)
were not participants in any of this.
     The different services and the government conduct this type
of operation against each other all the time.
     The result of this operation was that the Navy cut themselves
in for a piece of the action (technology) and control of some
projects. 
     As you can see this file is only a little different from my
previous file.
     Only some names were scrambled previously to confuse the
government long enough for someone to verify that what I have said
is the truth.
     I have added information in this file that puts me in absolute
danger.
     I have sent a copy of this file to people all over the country
and will continue to do so.
     Please get this file into as many hands as you can and maybe
that will protect me but I doubt it. 
     HISTORY WILL BE THE JUDGE OF ME AND THIS INFORMATION AND I
HAVE NO FEAR OF THAT JUDGEMENT.
     I SWEAR THAT THIS INFORMATION IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST
OF MY KNOWLEDGE. 
     I wish to thank all those people who have aided me in reaching
this point and for their patience and understanding.
     I owe you all more than I can ever repay. 
     Finally, it does not matter who is right and who is wrong or
if a project name is in the wrong place.
     It does not matter who is working for who or what is really
what.
     It should be obvious by now that something sinister and
terribly wrong is going on involving the government and the UFO
phenomenon.
     We must all band together and expose it now.
     I have done my part in the best manner that I could.
     I can add nothing else except my testimony in Congress or a
court of law that what I saw and have written in this file is true
and that I saw it. 
     Everything in my previous file that does not conflict with
this file is true and correct to the best of my knowledge and some
of it is from sources and research.
     You may combine the files to get the entire picture.
     Throw out only that information which conflicts with that
contained in this file. 
     There will be no further additions or corrections to this
information either now or in the future.
     My file is complete and stands to be judged by history.
     Sometime in the future the exact papers that I saw will
surface, and you will all see this exact information contained
within them.  
     Milton William Cooper 
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