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Subject: File of Alt.Magick.Tyagi Rules and Assorted Dogma - FAMTRAD
Date: 21 Dec 1995 10:26:56 -0800
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Summary: This is the Rules and Dogma file for alt.magick.tyagi.  Read.
Replaces: 49950803

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Revised: 49951208
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.File of Alt.Magick.Tyagi Rules and Assorted Dogma (FAMTRAD)

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.I think within a few years,  we will see edited versions of
.groups in which competent editors weave out the trivia and index
.the material for different tastes.  This type of system (which
.will probaly be commercial since reward is necessary for
.consistent years of mantainence),  can also include multiple
.hierarchies of various subjects.   It should be possible for a
."newbie" to easily acquire "group expertise" (captured in
.[distilled] form through the years) by asking for connections
.between various words.  

. Andrea Chen <dbennett@crl.com> '::PROGRAMMING CYBERSPACE::'
.___________________________________________________________


.AMT is an experiment.  It is an experiment in culture, 
.in synthesis, in post-echo-locating.  Being at the nexus 
.between magick and mysticism, AMT includes them both and 
.is yet an ephemeral cross-section of the data that 
.surrounds it.
  
.The way alt newsgroups are proliferating and diversifying 
.illustrates the kind of diffusion within the academic 
.arena as a whole.  AMT is a continual support for synthesis, 
.especially where mages are concerned (who are some of the most 
.syncretic and synthesizing within the 'spiritual community').

.AMT thrives as long as people like yourself occasionally
.Xpost to it, send some of your favorite magical and mystical
.text there, and keep excluding silly fluff from its contents.

.tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nagasiva)
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.This is the regularly posted reference file for the AMT 
.newsgroup.  If you wish to post, you are most welcome to do 
.so provided you keep the following in mind:


Charter 

.Articles shall be reposted and X-posted to alt.magick.tyagi 
.in order to create a haven and educational archive/consortium 
.for those with serious interest in the study of magick and 
.associated subjects.  It is not only a forum for posts but it 
.is also for discussion subsequent to those posts and any 
.experimentation with re-/X-posting articles.


Purpose

.This group shall be used as a REposting site for articles 
.found in the various Usenet hierarchies of interest to mages, 
.including other alt.magick.* groups, alt.religion.*, 
.alt.satanism, alt.*.zen, soc.religion.*, talk.religion.*, 
.and any other group that qualifies.
.
.There shall be no restrictions on who is allowed to post to 
.the group and yet the group's parameters are clearly stated 
.below.

.AMT shall also carry subsequent exchanges of threads which 
.are of particular interest to esotericists, tied together via 
.repost and Xpost so as to ease access to the working, 
.eclectic magical/mystical student.

.This group shall also function as a place to move very long, 
.complicated conversations, philosophical exchanges, regarding 
.magick, mysticism and associated subjects that often annoy 
.regular readers of the normal alt.magick.* or the religious
.groups, yet serve the interests of dedicated specialists.


Posting Rules

.As the Neutopian Doctress, Andrea Chen (dbennett@crl.com), 
.writes of Usenet newsgroups: 

..a number of groups are nearly carbon copies of each 
..other [and] crossthreads are useful in tying a number 
..of groups (each with something unique to add) into 
..a debate

.AMT can be used for this purpose, exposing the commonality 
.of subjects and patterns within them to the many readers who 
.will almost certainly prove amateur in all.

.For a good set of guidelines, see the Alt.Magick RULES at:

 .  ftp://ftp.hollyfeld.org/pub/Esoteric/Web/Amgkfaq/ruleref

.Overall, post in a manner which is helpful to others in the 
.newsgroup.  AMT was created to address a specific need.  Posts 
.made to it should generally be of three types:

.JOCULAR posts should be rare, only following on discussion 
.initiated within REposted threads (and curtailed shortly 
.thereafter) or responding within a Xposted thread in a 
.manner which maintains the integrity of its header, the 
.substance of its text and respect to other participants, 
.even while critical and heated debate ensues.

.XPOSTING should be minimized and subtlely used to join 
.disparate disciplines when contributing articles which 
.apply to their intersection or when a particular post 
.within any newsgroup would likely be of interest to those 
.whose studies include the subject of magick or mysticism.

.REPOSTS will be the most common, should generally be posted 
.only to alt.magick.tyagi.  Their function is to make 
.accessible articles from other newsgroups which could be of 
.interest to mages who don't have the time or incentive to 
.read *every* group which is relevant to their field.

.Take note to indicate in the Followup-To: field where you 
.want the discussion to proceed after you've posted or 
.REposted the article.  REposts should be made in something 
.like the following manner:

.     [a] find a pertinent newsgroup other than AMT;
..(if you don't know what's pertinent, don't post, 
.. read alt.magick for a month or two first and 
.. see how this compares with AMT)

.     [b] find an article that is thought-provoking, 
.. well-researched, representative, or otherwise 
.. interesting;

.     [c] pretend you are going to 'follow-up' but instead 
.         of leaving the 'Newsgroups:' 'Reply-To:' lines as 
.. you found them, replace the newsgroups with 
.. "alt.magick.tyagi" and use the address given in 
.. the automatic 'response-indicator' 
..("in article <artcl#snltrs>, <address> writes:") 
.. for both the 'reply-to' field and for what is 
.. called an ATTRIBUTION:

 .  "[from <original newsgroup>: <author's name and address>]";
 
.     [d] remove all the 'quote-symbols' from the text that 
.. were applied when you began your follow-up 
..(usually a left sidebar of '>'; this can be done 
.. with the command: ':%s,>,' in VI) 
. . and be sure that the header fields are accurate 
..(sometimes when I remove all those >'s I get the 
.. first one in the 'References' field also, or in 
.. the author's name);
 
.     [e] You may also change the Subject: header to include 
.. the author's name -- first init, last name, then 
.. a reasonable subject header with (Was ...) if the 
.. original was ugly.  

.     [f] I've also begun filling in a 'Followup-to:', 
.. especially if I'm including forums in my Newsgroup 
.. lines that don't like followups, alt.magick.chaos, 
.. or alt.magick.moderated, which doesn't tend to
.         like massive Xposting (I omit these in the 
.. Followup-to: field).


Call for Charity

.If you have any disk-space you'd like to contribute toward 
.preserving some of the better articles that appear here, let 
.me know and we may be able to work out an arrangement for 
.storage (at least by making your available resource known 
.on AMT and elsewhere).


Assorted Dogma

.Alt.magick.tyagi is a 'best-of-internet' consortium for mages 
.and mystics within the Usenet hierarchy.  It is a tool for 
.this effect and whether it lies fallow or burgeons with ripe 
.cyberfruits is dependent entirely upon the dedication of the 
.few who shall remain thankless.

.By far the bulk of traffic within the alt.magick.* newsgroups 
.occurs in the original group.  

.Alt.magick.chaos is actually a *working* group which includes 
.posts and discussion concerning chaos and chaos magick as 
.understood by its regular posters.  

.Alt.magick.tantra was started as an alternative to the glutted
.alt.magick.sex, and includes posts regarding tantra, taoist
.sexual alchemy and sex magick (see its Charter)).  

.Alt.magick.order and alt.magick.ethics were created in 
.frustration at the volume and noise/signal ratio within 
.alt.magick, and are being utilized to divide up the various 
.areas of interest that collide in the hub group.

.One of the advantages of alt.magick.tyagi is that through 
.the REposting and Xposting procedure (detailed above) many 
.specialists within diverse fields are brought together into 
.one forum that allows them to see these commonalities.  It 
.thus allows a networking function which would not be 
.otherwise possible, while the group itself serves as an 
.outlet for a very verbose and syncretic type of communication.


Terminology

.The word 'tyagi' is Sanskrit (East Indian) and can be 
.literally translated as 'monk' or 'one who renounces, 
.or sacrifices all'.  In this way the newsgroup name symbolizes 
.the fusion of magick and mysticism through the combination 
.of terms, and provides a kind of arena in which writings of 
.a decidedly esoteric nature may be drawn together, compared, 
.contrasted, and perhaps fused into the intellectual equivalent 
.of what the people of alt.magick.chaos intend to do actively, 
.ritually, in cyberspace.

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            Comments to: nagasiva (tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com)
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.Ending quotation from Aleister Crowley:

."_Student_ [grade of the A.'.A.'.].  His business is to acquire
.a general intellectual knowledge of all systems of attainment...."

.._Magick_, ed. Symonds/Grant; p. 328, Appendix II

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