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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 23:48:12 CST
From: Brian Redman <bigxc@firefly.prairienet.org>
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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 41


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3  Num. 41
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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GLOBAL 2000: EARTH FIRST! FOR THE "MASTER RACE"
 
My transcript of a recent episode of a public access show, 
originating in Chicago, called "Broadsides". This episode 
featured independent researcher Sherman Skolnick, and author Mark 
Sato. Note that in the following I neither necessarily agree nor 
disagree with some or all of the views expressed.
 
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MARK SATO [continues]:
And to give you an example: after the Nazis kind of "went 
away"...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well that's your theory that they went away.
 
 
SATO:
Well...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I don't think they went away at all.
 
 
SATO:
Well, they were...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I think they're still here!
 
 
SATO:
..they were, allegedly, defeated.
 
But, of course, they *didn't* go away, precisely because the 
people who sponsored the idea of eugenics didn't go away.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
..a eugenics society in the United States promoting this?
 
 
SATO:
By and large, the idea of eugenics has floated over to the 
environmental people.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Really?
 
 
SATO:
Pollution control and...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Pollution's about the same thing?
 
 
SATO:
Yeah. Pollution control means population control, because the 
more people you have the more pollution you have, and the more 
danger we all face because there's "too many" people on the face 
of the earth!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
And the aristocracy, a few years ago, through one of their secret 
society meetings -- the Bilderbergs or Trilateral Commission, 
whatever -- say, "Hey. All you in the aristocracy! Promote 
environmental. We gotta have..."
 
Where'd they have their conference? In Brazil or something? They 
had some big conference: "Promote the Environment".
 
 
SATO:
Just recently they had the Cairo Conference.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
O.K. So, but what you're saying is, this is just another word for 
eugenics,
 
 
SATO:
That's right.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
..to "weed out" what they feel are "inferior" people.
 
 
SATO:
Now most of the environmentalists are, consider themselves 
liberal. And they would be horrified of this idea that you would 
*pick* the, for the most part, the people of color to get rid of 
because there's "too many" people on the face of the earth. But 
that, by and large, is what they *really* are saying, despite 
their perhaps, ignorance...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well they have the media on their side.
 
 
SATO:
..the real meaning of their movement.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I mean, they have the media on their side. Because, I mean, who 
do ya see as what I call "anchor faces", anchor people? "Blonde- 
haired dummies", as I call 'em. With a few token Oriental- 
Americans and a few... Like Linda Yu, over here, who's connected 
with the Chinese royal family...
 
 
SATO:
Well they are indeed, Sherman, they are indeed tokens. Because 
the modern science... I don't really wanna call it "science". But 
the modern philosophy of eugenics is, was fathered by Bertrand 
Russell.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
What about him?
 
 
SATO:
Well Bertrand Russell, who was a British (and I hesitate to use 
the word "philosophy")...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I thought he was for peace? That's the only time I heard of 
Bertrand Russell, I heard he was...
 
 
SATO:
Well... Bertrand Russell was *for* peace -- as in, "rest in 
peace" -- for most of the people of the earth. He said, "The 
white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The 
asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, 
before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers 
stable without help of war and pestilence." And of course, he 
*did* mean to impose war and pestilence on the asians and the, 
what he called "negroes". "Until that happens, the benefits aimed 
at by socialism can only be partially realized." (He was a 
socialist.) "And the less prolific races will have to defend 
themselves" -- Wait a minute -- "will have to defend themselves 
by methods which are disgusting, even if they are necessary."
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I... He either mis-used the term socialism, in applying to 
himself... But there is a certain...
 
 
SATO:
Never mind, Sherman. That's a *whole* different thing. Let's not 
get off on that tangent. Don't worry about... Don't worry about 
Mr. Russell's mis-using the word, because he wants to mis-use the 
entire planet! So don't worry about that little item.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
So, in other words, he was for "peace" from the standpoint of 
"rest in peace". Well all right.
 
 
SATO:
Right. Now the progress of Mr. Russell's ideas wound up in a 
report called "Global 2000".
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Which is the title of this show.
 
 
SATO:
Which is the title of this show. This big report, which was 
authored under the auspices of the Jimmy Carter administration. 
And of course, he is running around the world promoting the 
ideals of Global 2000.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I thought he was a born-again something.
 
 
SATO:
Well... That's what he says. But anyway...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
He's evidently not a born-again geneticist.
 
 
SATO:
..here comes the number you were looking for, Sherman. "Global 
2000 proposes that the population of the earth be lowered to 2 
billion." Now of course...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
By what means?
 
 
SATO:
Well they don't say, exactly. But they want to lower it [to] 2 
billion by the year 2000! That's why the report's called "Global 
2000". There's 5.6 billion people on the face of the planet right 
now. Which means that they're gonna have to get rid of 3.6 
billion people!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well there's two ways you can do it.
 
 
SATO:
In six years!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well, no. There's two ways: they can start a nuclear war which 
endeavors to "knock off" a lot of people. I don't know where the 
aristocracy is gonna go; they're gonna go off in a missile to the 
moon or something.
 
 
SATO:
Well, Sherman...
 
[...contention for who will speak...]
 
Wait, wait. Before you go on! You shoot these things off, and 
then let me get a chance to...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Six years! They want to "knock off" that many...
 
 
SATO:
They want to "knock off" that many people. But guess who says 
that it's a great way to do it?! What you just said, atomic war 
-- Robert S. McNamara, the former head of the World Bank, says 
that's, you know, "Nuclear war is great."
 
 
SKOLNICK:
He's not a dummy. He was among what they called the "Wiz Kids"...
 
 
SATO:
Of course he's not a dummy! And he knows what he's talking about! 
He knows how to wipe people off the face of the earth with a 
bunch of nuclear weapons. And he'd like to do it.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well. I don't...
 
 
SATO:
Because he says that the single biggest obstacle to progress on 
this planet is that there are "too many" people in the developing 
countries. So we can't have progress on the rest of the planet 
unless those people get "jettisoned" off the planet!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
O.K. But let me understand this. In what way does the eugenics 
differ from genocide?
 
 
SATO:
It doesn't!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
It's about the same thing.
 
 
SATO:
It's the same thing!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
In other words, it should be "eugenics/genocide".
 
 
SATO:
Genocide. And in a way, it's even more than genocide. It's like 
"geneticide" because they want to kill the bad genes...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
You know, it's very odd. Because the ultra-right wing does a very 
odd thing: they use their newspapers to fight any treaty that has 
to do with genocide. And they twist it out of shape and says, 
"Well it's *bad* for the people."
 
 
SATO:
Well that's because the "Genocide Treaty", as it's called, is 
really not about genocide.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yeah, O.K.
 
 
SATO:
That's a misnomer. It really doesn't apply.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
But in other words, these eugenics, this genocide -- who is it 
directed against? Against people of color?
 
 
SATO:
It's directed *mostly* at people of color. But it's really, not 
really necessarily a racial thing. It's more of a class thing. 
Let me give you an example.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
A class thing.
 
 
SATO:
Let me give you an example.
 
In December of '74, there was a National Security Study 
Memorandum, number 200, which was authored by Henry Kissinger -- 
formerly known as "Heinz" Kissinger, because he's actually a 
German. A German *zafardi*(?), by the way. And it was called, 
"The Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. 
Security and Overseas Interests." And it was about the national 
security of the United States.
 
Now understand: whenever somebody says, "national security", 
they're talking a treasonous thing. Because whenever people talk 
about "national security" of the United States, they're saying, 
"*We* want to discuss something that is so horrendous that nobody 
in their right minds would discuss it..."
 
 
SKOLNICK:
By the way, you brought up one angle of the Second World War, the 
European angle, the Holocaust and so on...
 
 
SATO:
Wait, wait, wait. Before you go back...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
And that was genocide.
 
 
SATO:
Right. Before you go back, let me finish this, let me finish 
this.
 
This National Security Memorandum expressed the fear that 
population growth in the Third World "will threaten U.S. 
strategic raw material supplies." In other words, too many 
people, say, in certain countries, in Latin America, would 
*threaten* the ability of the United States to access those 
strategic raw materials.
 
Now. What right we have to dictate how we get our strategic raw 
materials is of a little bit of interest. But anyway, the 
countries that Kissinger targeted for this "problem" of 
overpopulation were India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, 
Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, 
Ethiopia, and Columbia. He wanted "to inhibit the wishful 
thinking that economic development will solve the problem of 
overpopulation." In other words, there is *no* economic 
development that would help; we must get *rid* of the people.
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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