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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 36


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3  Num. 36
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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EUSTACE MULLINS -- OCTOBER 28, 1994
 
Tom Valentine's guest on *Radio Free America* (Shortwave, 5.065 
MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 28, 1994 was controversial 
author Eustace Mullins. Note that views expressed in the 
following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of 
Conspiracy Nation.
 
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TOM VALENTINE:
Is that right!? The 14th amendment actually makes that statement? 
I gotta read that again.
 
 
EUSTACE MULLINS:
Oh yes. It says that it's a violation to question the validity of 
the national debt! In other words, you say, Tom Valentine says, 
"Well, they create this money out of nothing!" Well you've just 
committed a violation of the 14th amendment by saying that!
 
 
VALENTINE:
By the way, they had a meeting of law enforcement police chiefs 
and so on down in "Albasqueeky", New Mexico here, a few months 
ago. And I've just recently heard about it. And they've listed 
the "terrorists". And people who oppose the federal reserve, and 
people who oppose the income tax, and people who oppose *NAFTA*, 
are now on the list of terrorists in this country.
 
 
MULLINS:
Yeah, they call it "Constitutional terrorists".
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well! Aren't we something.
 
Well *health*, to me, is a big one. If you control the people's 
health, they're not gonna think so clearly.
 
 
MULLINS:
Well, and that's why John D. Rockefeller himself, the same man 
whose son-in-law created the federal reserve system at Jekyll 
Island, he also, in 1907, John D. Rockefeller decided to go into 
the health business. And you see, his father, the founder of the 
Rockefeller dynasty, was William Rockefeller -- who was a side- 
show barker who called himself "the world's greatest cancer 
specialist" and sold bottles of oil for $5 apiece in the 1860s. 
That's how far this goes back. They were into cancer over 100 
years ago. And so his son, John, the original John D. 
Rockefeller, went into the health business as early as 1907.
 
 
VALENTINE:
And in the health business, of course, they found themselves a 
"quack", and used that "quack" to establish the American Medical 
Association [AMA]!
 
 
MULLINS:
They certainly did. Because a "quack", by definition, is an 
unapproved doctor, a doctor who has no training. And any 
medication which is not approved by these same "quacks" -- they 
call it "quack medicine"!
 
 
VALENTINE:
That's right. And who was that first AMA founder, and the AMA 
journal?
 
 
MULLINS:
That was Abraham Flexner(sp?) and "Doc" William Simmons(sp?) of 
Lincoln, Nebraska. "Doc" Simmons was a man who had 2 fake medical 
degrees. And he is the person who created the American Medical 
Association as we know it today. He took it over in 1898.
 
 
VALENTINE:
This Dr. Simmons -- they made a famous movie based on him, that 
he tried to drive his wife nuts.
 
 
MULLINS:
Uh yes he did. Because she objected to his having a mistress 
there in Chicago. And so he decided he would give her drugs and 
drive her insane and put her in an asylum. And that would end 
this criticism.
 
Well it didn't work. She took him to court and got a divorce. And 
do you know that that became a very famous movie, "Gaslight", 
with Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yep. I was just sayin', "Gaslight", [with] Charles Boyer [and] 
Ingrid Bergman, is based upon a true story of the original head 
of the AMA. And you mentioned the name of the guy who set him up 
-- Abraham Flexner.
 
 
MULLINS:
Yeah. Flexner was John D. Rockefeller's "stool pigeon" in setting 
up the takeover of the entire medical school industry by Carnegie 
Foundation, which was a Rockefeller Foundation subsidiary at that 
time.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes, that's interesting. The Carnegie Foundation is also the 
Carnegie Endowment, [which] is the big one behind education. [CN 
-- To see how the Carnegie Foundation encroached on our 
universities, ca. 1880-1920, see *Universities and the Capitalist 
State*, by Clyde Barrow, published by the University of Wisconsin 
Press.]
 
 
MULLINS:
It certainly is. And they're totally controlled by the 
Rockefeller Foundation. When you say "Carnegie Foundation", 
you're talking about something that has no substance. It's 
entirely under the domination of the Rockefellers.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Interesting stuff.
 
Now. Abraham Flexner. Wasn't there a thing called "The Flexner 
Report"?
 
 
MULLINS:
He did "The Flexner Report", and this changed the medical schools 
of the United States from homeopathic, naturopathic medicine, to 
allopathic medicine -- which was a German school of medicine 
which depended on the heavy use of drugs, radical surgery, and 
long hospital stays. That's what we've got today, allopathic 
medicine.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes. And then the next thing you need to control is the insurance 
industry and the hospital industry. And then you nationalize it 
and you've got everything!
 
 
MULLINS:
That's right. And what Hillary Clinton was hoping to do for 
Senator Jay Rockefeller, the man behind health care "reform", she 
was going to deliver the health industry of the United States to 
him in a package tied up with a red ribbon. But she didn't make 
it.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yeah, let's hope the American people keep getting smarter. Thanks 
to books like [by] my guest, Eustace Mullins, you can do it.
 
If you'd like to join us in the last segment, 1-800-878-8255.
 
I'm Tom Valentine. This is *Radio Free America*.
 
[...break...]
 
All right, Mr. and Mrs. America: every single morning when you 
wake up, you are surrounded by monopolies. Your life is actually 
*dominated* by monopolies. And yet your government has the gall 
to tell you that they have such a thing as "anti-trust laws". You 
have a monopoly on your money, the very lifeblood of your daily 
commerce. You have a monopoly on your health: don't dare practice 
medicine without a license. You have a monopoly on the schools. 
Oh yes. And on the courts. [CN -- Also, a media monopoly.]
 
The man who has studied each of these monopolies and has put 
forth a book on 'em, very thorough books, is my guest right now, 
Eustace Mullins. And the books are, *The New World Order*, 
*Secrets of the Federal Reserve*, *Murder by Injection*, *The 
Rape of Justice*, *The Curse of Canaan*, and *Education for 
Slavery*.
 
And you even have looked at the religious monopoly out there.
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh I certainly have! Because I found that the Rockefellers... In 
fact, the Evangelical Association was set up by the British 
secret service in 1848. And then they exported it to this country 
[and] it became the National Council of Churches. And so they've 
been very active in the religious movement.
 
 
VALENTINE:
The National Council of Churches is actually a British spy agency 
off-shoot?
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh yeah, it was set up by Lord Henry Palmerston, the head of the 
British secret service and British foreign minister!
 
 
VALENTINE:
And their purpose is?
 
 
MULLINS:
To control the people through their religious observance.
 
 
VALENTINE:
That is one of the most important aspects of people's lives. And 
we have watched basic Christianity being washed down, watered 
down if you will, by the National Council on Churches, year in 
and year out.
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh and they've been very liberal, very revolutionary. In fact, 
they invented what they call "liberation theology" in which they 
intended to liberate the Third World from you and me!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Huh. "Liberation theology" means... I thought it was to liberate 
the homosexuals and the females!
 
 
MULLINS:
Well they're doing that too.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Not that they were slaves, but...
 
 
MULLINS:
All of the monopolies work together. They have a common program 
and goals. And they're very vociferous in their demands, too.
 
 
VALENTINE:
It is really interesting, how they've done it.
 
Now. In your *Murder by Injection* you also dealt with the 
psychiatric profession.
 
 
MULLINS:
I certainly did. I exposed Dr. Ewen Cameron, who was head of the 
World Psychiatrist Association -- in fact, he created it -- and 
he also worked very closely with the CIA and the British secret 
service in mind control, mind altering techniques. And they were 
very active in LSD, Lysergic Acid, and other mind altering drugs.
 
 
VALENTINE:
And those kids of the '60s thought that they were doing something 
on their own, that they were rebelling against something when 
they are actually set-ups.
 
 
MULLINS:
They were set up all the way. They were victims. And some of 
those people are still suffering today from the things that Dr. 
Cameron and these conspirators... Dr. Sidney Gottlieb was the 
head of the mind altering drug division of the CIA. He was on 
television the other night, but he wouldn't answer any questions.
 
 
VALENTINE:
[laughs] You didn't get a chance to ask him any, either! If you'd 
have been with him!
 
You're *persona non grata* [i.e. not welcome] with the 
establishment.
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh very much so! In fact, there's an "iron curtain" on any 
mention of my name or any of my books in the establishment press.
 
 
VALENTINE:
An "iron curtain".
 
Well, I'll tell ya what: I am very proud to say that you're a 
friend and have been on this show a number of times. That you're 
appearing at my conference. And you certainly have performed a 
fantastic service for people.
 
 
MULLINS:
Well it's fascinating work, every minute of it.
 
 
VALENTINE:
It is. And as life goes on, you see it, the monopolies, you see 
them set their hooks ever deeper, don't you?
 
 
MULLINS:
They certainly do. Because they have only one way to go: they 
have to constantly extend their power. They can never relax, they 
can never ease back. They have to constantly be getting the 
people more and more under their control.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yeah! Because the way the Soviet Union fell, the "front men" of 
the Soviet Union had their statues toppled by the people. But the 
*real* backers of communism weren't touched.
 
 
MULLINS:
No indeed. They're still in the background.
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right. Well I'll tell ya: one of these days, maybe the 
sleeping giant will wake up, and it will be because of courageous 
writers like yourself. And I want to thank you very much for 
giving me your hour. And we will see you on Saturday, November 
the 5th, Eustace.
 
 
MULLINS:
I'm looking forward to it, Tom.
 
 
VALENTINE:
We'll see ya then.
 
 
MULLINS:
All right.
 
 
VALENTINE:
So long.
 
There he is, folks! And can you imagine: all these monopolies. 
And we don't pay any attention to 'em! We don't even *consider* 
them monopolies! But they *are*. Money. Health. Schools. Courts. 
Churches. -- monopolized by a single agenda.
 
And this man started off with the money. And as he pointed out: 
just a young student, influenced by Ezra Pound. And then he 
started studying the monopolies.
 
These are fantastic books, and you should pick 'em up!
 
  [CN -- Valentine gives info on how to order Mullins' books. 
  Because these books are probably unavailable from most public 
  libraries, and indeed may even be unavailable by ordering 
  them from your local bookseller, I include info on how to 
  obtain these books. Note that I personally receive *no* 
  financial benefit from any sale of these books.
 
  *Some* of Eustace Mullins' books are available from Liberty 
  Library. Phone 1-800-522-6292. Or, you can also write to Mr. 
  Mullins directly at PO Box 1105, Stanton, Virginia 24401.]
 
Hey! I wanna take a break. See you after the news.
 
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