From bigxc@firefly.prairienet.orgFri Jan 20 07:27:48 1995
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 95 11:20:59 CST
From: Brian Redman <bigxc@firefly.prairienet.org>
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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 33


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3  Num. 33
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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EUSTACE MULLINS -- OCTOBER 28, 1994
 
Tom Valentine's guest on *Radio Free America* (Shortwave, 5.065 
MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 28, 1994 was controversial 
author Eustace Mullins. Note that views expressed in the 
following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of 
Conspiracy Nation.
 
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ANNOUNCER:
It's *Radio Free America*, the talk show for intelligent 
Americans, with your host, Tom Valentine.
 
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And now, the newspaper that "tells it like it is" presents Tom 
Valentine.
 
 
TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to *Radio Free America*.
 
It is "fractal Friday", but in this hour it's not really going to 
be "fractal". It's going to be very, very important.
 
Now, before we start, with my guest, we need to clarify a term -- 
'cause I use it as a term of endearment, but a lot of people may 
not understand how to take it. And we're not gonna be like those 
in the "NewSpeak" game, or the Orwellian types. We're going to 
deal with language so that we understand.
 
There are people, like myself, who are called "health nuts". A 
"health nut" is a person who advocates natural health things. So 
that's... The "nut" is a term of endearment now. They were called 
"health nuts" by the establishment, in a derogatory way, for 
many, many years. But now, a lot of us are *proud* to take the 
term "health nuts".
 
Well there are also "conspiracy nuts". And they're identical to 
"health nuts": they have been put down with that term for a long 
time. They're a person who has keen insights to the ongoing 
problems of the world; and to the news of the world, he "reads 
between the lines" and he sees that there are people out there 
with an agenda, powerful people with an agenda. And he begins to 
believe it and study it, and he gets to be called, by the 
establishment (which is part of the agenda problem) a "conspiracy 
nut".
 
Well, *many* of us are "conspiracy nuts". And I'm *proud* to be a 
"conspiracy nut".
 
You're not a "conspiracy nut" worth a darn, unless you have read 
the several books by my guest: *The New World Order*, *Secrets of 
the Federal Reserve*, *Murder by Injection*, *The Rape of 
Justice*, and now, the latest, and evidently one of your most 
acclaimed books, Eustace Mullins, *Education for Slavery*.
 
Welcome to *Radio Free America*.
 
 
EUSTACE MULLINS:
Thank you, Tom! It's certainly good to be on your show.
 
 
VALENTINE:
It's good to have you back! We haven't talked in a while.
 
 
MULLINS:
No we haven't. I've been on the road quite a bit.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well you've got a new book since the last time we talked.
 
 
MULLINS:
Yes.
 
 
VALENTINE:
What is this, *Education*... You've taken the whole educational 
system to task, have you?
 
 
MULLINS:
More than that. I have traced all of the present educational 
programs right back, 5,000 years, to the ancient cult of Baal, 
which Jesus preached against during his ministry on earth.
 
 
VALENTINE:
That's fascinating. That *is* fascinating, and there's a lot of 
us who would believe that. Because that cult has *never* gone 
away.
 
 
MULLINS:
It has never gone away. It's more prevalent today, I think, than 
it was in Jesus' time. And, of course, this *really* gets 
conspiratorial because, when your education system has been 
subverted by a Satanic cult -- you don't get much more 
conspiratorial than that.
 
 
VALENTINE:
I would say so.
 
How do we make the links? I mean, without givin' away the whole 
book, what are the major links going back?
 
 
MULLINS:
The links. The cult of Baal went underground after Jesus' 
ministry, and it re-appeared as Humanism. Then it re-appeared as 
the Renaissance, the French Revolution, the Communist Revolution 
-- all of these are manifestations of this ancient cult. And 
actually, it came to power, over the educational system in this 
country, through Humanism.
 
 
VALENTINE:
I have no doubt about that at all: I have followed humanist... I 
*was* one. I was a brainwashed humanist for a very big part of my 
younger life!
 
 
MULLINS:
My goodness.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Oh yeah! You know, you go to college in America, if you're not 
too smart you're gonna be caught up in it. In fact, I mentioned 
it in the first hour. I was given the Franz Boaz, Ashley 
Montague, Russell What's-his-name...
 
 
MULLINS:
Bertrand Russell, yeah.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Bertrand Russell and Aldous Huxley and all of that stuff -- and I 
just ate it up! Because I didn't know any better.
 
 
MULLINS:
Well they were the most revered people of the academic world at 
that time!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes they were, in the '50s.
 
And so, these people, though, were preaching something that... 
How would you phrase it? What is it that Humanism does that isn't 
good for people? That is Satanic, that is diabolical?
 
 
MULLINS:
It's anti-God. It places man above God! And that's a fundamental 
error. And I think Humanism is the origin of "feel good" 
liberalism. They want people to feel good about themselves; they 
want 'em to have more self-esteem. Well you have self-esteem by 
having character! By having integrity. By producing something of 
value to the world.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Ah, but since they can't do that, they preach the self-esteem 
*without* the character, and *without* the value.
 
 
MULLINS:
They give you the self-esteem without any values on your part. 
And of course that also gives 'em tremendous *control* over you, 
because once you've been told that you have self-esteem then you 
are at the mercy of people who are manipulating you. You become a 
puppet.
 
 
VALENTINE:
I can certainly sense that and feel that.
 
All right! Ladies and gentlemen, my guest is author Eustace 
Mullins. He's been around for a long, long time. And he and I are 
just gonna have a little conversation about a *lot* of things 
that have been going on for many years.
 
You may join us: 1-800-878-8255. You may call any time you feel. 
Eustace and I can handle it.
 
I'm Tom Valentine, this is *Radio Free America*.
 
[...break...]
 
All right, we are back, live. And like I said, my guest is 
Eustace Mullins. [...Gives info on upcoming appearances by Mr. 
Mullins...]
 
Now. Your books -- you got a lot of them. Three of your books are 
available from Liberty Library: *The New World Order*, *Secrets 
of the Federal Reserve*, and *Murder by Injection*. And they're 
outstanding. In fact, *Secrets of the Federal Reserve* was the 
one that exposed "the Fed" for what it really is.
 
 
MULLINS:
Yeah. It was the first book to reveal the secret Jekyll Island 
conference at which the billionaires took over the money and 
credit of the people of the United States for their own sinister 
purposes.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes. And when you did that, that was extremely controversial and 
it's been shut down! I mean, [it's] amazing how the media shut 
that fact down.
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh, that's true. They have done that for years. And in fact, you 
know, when the Simon and Schuster put out a rip-off of my book 
called *Secrets of the Temple: The Federal Reserve*, they even 
stole my title. And they sold 300,000 of 'em. And *Forbes* 
magazine reviewed it and said, "This book has no secrets."
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well that's true. [laughs] There ya go.
 
 
MULLINS:
It was a total rip-off! [laughs]
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well, but did they talk about Jekyll Island in that one?
 
 
MULLINS:
No indeed. He didn't mention Jekyll Island at all. In fact, 
Greider, William Greider, who was a Washington editor of *Rolling 
Stone*, an establishment journalist, actually wrote this book. 
And he "pooh-poohed" any conspiratorial notion that there had 
ever been a meeting at all.
 
 
VALENTINE:
You're kidding.
 
 
MULLINS:
No.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Oh my... Right down the memory hole!
 
 
MULLINS:
Oh definitely. He absolutely said, "It never happened."
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well, that's the purpose of that book: to counter what you have 
done for so many years.
 
All right. What I wanna do... First of all, I gotta tell 
everybody [...Gives info on how to order books...]
 
 
MULLINS:
I'm at PO Box 1105, Stanton, Virginia 24401 [address to write to 
Mr. Mullins].
 
[...]
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right, now, Eustace, let's get started. You're not a young 
guy, neither am I. But how did you get started in this in the 
first place?
 
 
MULLINS:
Well I met a political prisoner, a man who had been imprisoned 
because he stood up for the Constitution of the United States: a 
poet named Ezra Pound. And he had been incarcerated, without 
trial, in St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C. And I was 
going to art school in Washington, and one of my professors said, 
"I want you to go out and meet Ezra Pound."
 
So I went out there. Ezra Pound said, "Go on to the Library of 
Congress and find out what you can about the Federal Reserve 
System." So I did it. And now, almost 50 years later, I'm still 
at it.
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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