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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 94 15:24:48 CST
From: Brian Redman <bigxc@firefly.prairienet.org>
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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3 Num. 32


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 3  Num. 32
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- WHITEWATER UPDATE
 
Tom Valentine's guest on *Radio Free America* (Shortwave, 5.065 
MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on November 30, 1994 was independent 
researcher and founder of the Citizens Committee to Clean-up the 
Courts [CCCC], Mr. Sherman Skolnick. Note that views expressed in 
the following do not necessarily reflect my own views or those of 
Conspiracy Nation.
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK [continues]:
Now *if* there is something unclear about this, it is because I 
try to put a complicated mess into non-lawyer language.
 
 
TOM VALENTINE:
No, I don't think you... It's very clear. I think you've done an 
excellent job of making it clear. The hardest job that you have, 
and that I have, is a thing called "credibility". You see, the 
*truth* is one thing; you can be absolutely sure...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
But wait a minute...
 
 
VALENTINE:
..it's true...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
There's a meeting, every other Tuesday, in the National Press 
Club, in Washington, conducted by Sarah McClendon and others. And 
William Sessions and his wife -- he's not in retirement; he's 
supposedly "in the doghouse"; they "sacked" him on the day before 
Foster was "knocked off".
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yeah! I'd *love* to get *him* on this show.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
But wait a minute! But he was *there*. And he, in so many words, 
*told* the fact that they "sacked" him to stop the White House 
from gettin', from Clinton and his wife getting put in jail! Now 
that's the bottom line, in the simplest, crudest terms. In other 
words, the day before the federal magistrate in Little Rock 
ordered the release of those records, which were in the custody 
of Foster in his office in the White House, that's the... later 
that day when they "sacked" William Sessions as the head of the 
FBI on these frivolous charges!
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. I'm Tom Valentine. This 
is *Radio Free America*.
 
[...break...]
 
O.K. We are back, live. The final leg. My guest is Sherman 
Skolnick.
 
And you know, Sherman, we've got a situation with Vincent Foster 
similar to the John F. Kennedy thing: a lot of people just don't 
believe the official line.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well, Patsy Thomasson, who was in with Dan Lasater, the convicted 
bond broker [who] went to jail for cocaine, she has been working 
in the White House and she, reportedly, is one of those that 
ransacked Foster's office, took away these documents (which 
apparently related to the SBA loans), [and] shipped them to 
Chicago to be used for blackmail.
 
Now that's the point that, in the remaining few minutes, I'd like 
to clarify. Chicago is very important in this. Because it was RTC 
in Chicago that got involved in the secret transfer of $50 
million of this RTC contingency fund (which was "parked" with 
Household International, as I said), [which was] sent to Little 
Rock RTC so as to try to cover up the apparent embezzlement of 
that S&L by Hillary and her husband!
 
Likewise, the SBA funds (the Small Business Administration 
funds), which are the, one of the key points of the David Hale 
case -- and he's turned around and said, "Hey! Don't look at me, 
look at Clinton and his wife. Look at the current Governor."
 
So Chicago is very instrumental in the thing.
 
*And*, you have to understand it from a cynical standpoint. The 
Republicans are saying, "Look. We're gonna get one of your 
current Governors down there, Jim 'Guy' Tucker, and a former 
Governor who's now the President, Bill Clinton and his wife." So 
the Democrats says, "Fine! And we're gonna put into jail one of 
*your* former Governors, Jim Thompson of Illinois! Close to Bush 
and so on." I mean they are threatening them, each other; it's 
everything short of shooting. I mean, we're cynical; we're 
waiting for bodies...
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well, you know, that... This is distressing. I don't like to see 
this kind of thing...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
But wait a minute! I'll tell you how distressing it is: the chief 
investigator of the RTC, that recommended the criminal indictment 
of Hillary and Bill, fell off a building!! And there's been some 
discussion, on *one* radio program, that the topmost thing was 
locked for the building and you couldn't get to the roof, and 
none of the security guards opened up the roof, therefore how did 
this body get *on* the roof and fall off the roof unless somebody 
*threw* it off the roof!?
 
There's a chief investigator for the RTC.
 
I mean, also, the chief of security of Clinton's Presidential 
campaign, Jerry Parks, was found murdered!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yeah. We've talked with the Parks' boy.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
You know what that's about.
 
There's over 30 deaths! So this thing is so heated up, where 
they're saying, "Hey, you're gonna send away one of our Governors 
to jail -- fine. We're gonna get a couple of yours."
 
 
VALENTINE:
You know, it'd probably be the best thing that ever happened to 
this country, is to have the media discredited [CN -- You mean 
they're not *already* discredited!?] by having both sides expose 
each other, and force it out.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
You know what? I'd like for both sides to come on your program! 
[laughs]
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well I'd like... No, it's gonna take people like you, constantly 
digging...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I don't mean to... I don't know what else to do but to laugh at 
something that is a political tragedy, all the way around.
 
The American people are being damaged, of course.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
In other words, we've got a criminal in the White House. And to 
save himself, he doesn't say anything about Hillary's law partner 
that got, apparently, "knocked off", involved with these SBA 
loans. The SBA loan records were removed from Foster's office, 
sent to Chicago for some further *blackmail* -- I mean, this 
thing is getting to be like a Greek drama!
 
 
VALENTINE:
It sure is. And the only time I've heard "SBA loan" linked to 
Vincent Foster and documents is from you.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
And remember: Gierum, close with the Rodham family (he went to 
law school with Hillary's brother) -- and Gierum told me all 
about it in his confession, which is a part of the court record 
now. The point is, he was senior litigation attorney for the U.S. 
Small Business Administration.
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right. We're out of time.
 
Sherman, as usual, you've got us waiting to see what really 
happens. And I think you're way ahead of the game, again. Thank 
you very much for giving us your time.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Thanks for listening, everybody.
 
 
VALENTINE:
And Sherman's number, folks, that call number is area code 312, 
731-1100. That is his "Hotline". And it's an easy call to make: 
312-731-1100.
 
Well! We've gotta stop for the alleged "news". And then we'll 
start again! Shortly.
 
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