From: dale@sorted.org 
  
 On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:36:18 +0100, JohnM  
 wrote: 
  
 >In article , michael nieuwenhuizen 
 > writes 
 >>"JohnM"  wrote 
 >>> 
 >>> And tons of wheat beer like Hoegarden for 3 Euros a 
 >>> bottle not 4-5 quid you pay for in Soho. 
 >> 
 >>it's not berlin that's cheap but london that's expensive. 
 > 
 >Well Berlin's cheaper than Vienna, Athens or AMS. You can't stay with 
 >25EUR/night anywhere in AMS and have my palatial lodgings in Berlin. 
 >And beers don't cost 3 EUR in clubs (2.5 EUR in bars). And on the 
 >Saturday they had this 5-Club-Nacht where with 11 EUR you got a card and 
 >could go to any five out of 30 clubs. 
  
 Prague is my place of choice for cheap fun. 
  
 >And now I know what's wrong with the club scene in London, coz in Berlin 
 >they were all still enjoying it: it's the commercialisation, cynicism 
 >and rip-offs of the (big) promoters which filtered down to the venue 
 >owners. 
  
 Got to agree there. I can't believe harddance promoters are charging 
 €16 for a party when I can see international DJs like Kevin 
 Saunderson, Jeff Mills and Derrick May usually for somewhere between 
 €10 & €15 
  
 > A cheaper, less commercial, more underground scene in Berlin 
 >brought back memories of '98. And it's the only other place I know apart 
 >from London with back-to-back parties from Friday night (well, many) 
 >into Monday morning (Sage). 
  
 Eh! And I thought you've been to Sao Paulo. On my visit there I 
 vaguely remember going to an afterparty on a Tuesday morning. 
  
  
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