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 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
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 Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
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 >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >> In article , 
 >> Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >>>> In article , 
 >>>> Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>"Ryan P."  wrote in message 
 >>>>>news:H0Gte.982$H41.25@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... 
 >>>>>> Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 >>>>>>> "Frankymole"  wrote in message 
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 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>Gordon Davie wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>1 -> 2 observed by Ben and Polly 
 >>>>>>>>>>2 -> 3 No one say the regeneration.  We saw the process starting at 
 >>>>>>>>>>       the end of War Games.  Plus that nit in the 5 doctors 
 >>>>>>>>>>3 -> 4 observed by UNIT 
 >>>>>>>>>>4 -> 5 observed by Pharos guards, Nyssa, Tegan and Adric 
 >>>>>>>>>>5 -> 6 observed by Peri 
 >>>>>>>>>>6 -> 7 The Rani spotted it out 
 >>>>>>>>>>7 -> 8 No one, just a probe to prove it 
 >>>>>>>>>>8 -> 9 No one just a statement to prove it 
 >>>>>>>>>>9 -> 10 Witness needed. 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>Well, Rose witnessed that one (I'm aware you haven't seen the 
 >>>>>>>>>episode 
 >>>>>>>>>yet). 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>But how do we know that CE is the *ninth* Doctor? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>Because they say so on Confidential. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> That was their opinion. The fact is that we *don't* know CE is the 
 >>>>>>> 10th 
 >>>>>>> Doctor. We assume he is. RTD accepts that he is the 9th Doctor - not 
 >>>>>>> because the McGann version regenerated into him but because the 
 >>>>>>> public 
 >>>>>>> and the press have already labelled him as such. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Whether our assumptions will ever be confirmed in a future series (it 
 >>>>>>> certainly wasn't in the series that has just ended) remains to be 
 >>>>>>> seen. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>  RTD is the producer... what he says is what is.  For better or for 
 >>>>>> worse. 
 >>>>>> How utterly rediculous would it be if, 10 years from now (thinking 
 >>>>>> positively here) the 12th Doctor is coming to the twilight of his 
 >>>>>> career, 
 >>>>>> and suddenly its revealed that, oops, he was really the 13th Doctor! 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>I think you missed the point. RTD has agreed that Eccleston is the 9th 
 >>>>>Doctor simpy because he is the 9th actor to be associated with the part 
 >>>>>as 
 >>>>>far as the general public is concerned. He has *not* stated, or even 
 >>>>>hinted, 
 >>>>>that the McGann version regenerated into the Eccleston version. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>This being the first series from BBC Wales, Eccleston could in fact be 
 >>>>>the 
 >>>>>1st Doctor. In fact, RTD may decide that the restriction of 12 
 >>>>>regenerations 
 >>>>>is not relevant to his version of Dr Who. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>We as fans of the 'classic' series are making assumptions that this new 
 >>>>>series is simply a continuation of it. In general, RTD is neither 
 >>>>>confirming 
 >>>>>nor denying our assumptions. He's left such things suitably vague. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> ALiens of London:  The Doctor mentions knowing UNIT. 
 >>> 
 >>>And this proves what, exactly? 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> This is the 9th Doctor at least. 
 > 
 >And how does it prove that? 
 > 
 > 
  
 He recall UNIT and says he has not seen them for some time. 
  
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