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 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
 In article , 
 greenyammo   wrote: 
 >Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 >> "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >> news:d97k03$47c$27@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> 
 >>>In article , 
 >>>Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >>>>news:d96ir7$bar$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>greenyammo   wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>L. Ross Raszewski wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:34 GMT, greenyammo 
 >>>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>>Slitheen  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>>>>news:d94l7n$sqg$21@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>>>>Jeremiah Harbottle  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Apprentice, Big Brother and American Idol.  Here in the UK it's 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>soaps 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>which 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>Now that'd be a good sight: 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>AMS: "RTD, You're fired." 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>Who gets his job? 
 >>>>>>>>>>>-- 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>His job aint on offer. A few moaning minnies who can't spot good 
 >>>>>>>>>>sci-fi TV 
 >>>>>>>>>>when they see it aren't going to push him out of a well deserved, 
 >>>>>>>>>>well 
 >>>>>>>>>>performed job. :) 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>RTD could be an ego threat to the show if one is not careful. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>I agree. He's already said that he's only going off-world twice in 
 the 
 >>>>>>>>new series because staying on planet earth "works". This is lazy, 
 just 
 >>>>>>>>because something works it doesn't mean you stick with it. The series 
 >>>>>>>>could run it's self into the ground if he sits on his laurels. 
 >>>>>>>>RTD scripts always tend to draw out sequences rather than pack the 
 >>>>>>>>episodes with invention and plot. An example: in the final episode 
 he 
 >>>>>>>>spent a very long section of the story devoted to getting that panel 
 >>>>>>>>pulled off the Tardis when Rose could have just walked in and opened 
 >>>>>>>>it 
 >>>>>>>>after her "eureka" moment. There was no time limit to this so there 
 >>>>>>>>was 
 >>>>>>>>no reason to hurry, the sequence wasn't exciting or funny...but.. 
 >>>>>>>>there 
 >>>>>>>>was a spaceship FULL of thousand's of Dalek's over in the other 
 story. 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>What would you rather be watching? 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>Hm...  A big CGI Dalek armada shooting things, or the resolution to 
 >>>>>>>Jackie and Mickey's character arcs, culminating in Rose's revelation 
 >>>>>>>to her mother about her dad and Jackie's final decision to help Rose 
 >>>>>>>even though it means losing her, in all likelihood forever?  Hm... 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>Mindless action sequence...  Character building and growth... This is 
 >>>>>>>a tough one... 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Doesn't have to be mindless does it though does it? Is anybody out 
 there 
 >>>>>>actually interested in Mickey and Rose's mum? Is that why we tune in 
 >>>>>>every week? Eastenders does this sort of thing on a far superior level. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>It wasn't the character work or story arc I was complaining about. It 
 >>>>>>was the method and delivery of those plot strands and the length RTD 
 >>>>>>takes to draw these scenes out. These scenes could have been dealt with 
 >>>>>>in another manner entirely and still made room for more sci-fi. 
 >>>>>>Let's not go overboard either, RTD writing is not Shakespeare. Trying 
 to 
 >>>>>>wring emotional scenes out of cardboard characters is not necessarily a 
 >>>>>>good thing. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Still keeping DW to a Doylian quality will help. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>What's a Doylian quality, what will it help and how? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>> 
 >>>Doyle, as in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Yes, I know who Arthur Conan Doyle is. I still don't see what you're 
 saying. 
 >> You think Dr Who should be set in the late 1800s? And that he should start 
 >> taking drugs? 
 >> 
 >> 
 >I Think he means keeping it in the Sherlock Holmes mould in which DR WHO 
 >fits comfortably. 
 >An incredibly intelligent man accompanied by an assistant who figures 
 >out complicated situations (involving deaths along the way). 
 > 
  
 Exactly!! 
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