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  Msg # 354 of 32031 on ZZUK4449, Friday 2-23-23, 4:09  
  From: THE DOCTOR  
  To: FAIRPLAY  
  Subj: Re: All right Fairplay  
 XPost: rec.arts.drwho 
 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
 In article <42b94c30$0$296$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 FairPlay  wrote: 
 > 
 >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >news:d9acti$hv3$18@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> In article <42b8570b$0$295$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 >> FairPlay  wrote: 
 >> > 
 >> >"Ian Salsbury"  wrote in message 
 >> >news:d99i7h$lgm$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... 
 >> >> 
 >> >> "FairPlay"  wrote in message 
 >> >> news:42b844da$0$290$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com... 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >> >> > news:d99cv9$ppi$4@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> >> >> In article <42b80cf8$0$304$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 >> >> >> FairPlay  wrote: 
 >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >> >> >> >news:d98vnj$g4a$16@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> >> >> >> In article , 
 >> >> >> >> Ian Salsbury  wrote: 
 >> >> >> >> >>>> Still, do you rate RTD's participation in DW as good as 
 >> >> >> >> >>>> a producer's stint in the BBC Jerry Springer opera? 
 >> >> >> >> >>>> 
 >> >> >> >> >>> 
 >> >> >> >> >>>Eh? 
 >> >> >> >> >>> 
 >> >> >> >> >>> 
 >> >> >> >> >>> 
 >> >> >> >> >>> 
 >> >> >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> >> >> Repeat, do you think RTD's participation is as good as the 
 >> >producer 
 >> >> >> >> >> who made the Jerry Springer Opera the BBC was about to air? 
 >> >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >> >I can`t see what your`re on about here still. The Jerry Springer 
 >> >> >> >> >Opera 
 >> >> >> >was 
 >> >> >> >> >aired in the BBC, got about 3 or 4 million viewers, generally 
 >very 
 >> >> >> >positive 
 >> >> >> >> >reviews ( it had been a hugely successful west end production ) 
 >and 
 >> >a 
 >> >> > few 
 >> >> >> >> >hundred religious nutters threw their toys out of the pram. The 
 >> >vast 
 >> >> >> >> >majority of people saw no reason to be offended by it 
 >whatsoever. 
 >> >> > Exactly 
 >> >> >> >> >what this has to do with RTD`s involvement in Dr Who is beyond 
 >me. 
 >> >> >> >> >The 
 >> >> >> >> >public reaction to Dr Who has been overwhelmingly positive, a 
 >few 
 >> >> > people 
 >> >> >> >> >have complained it was too scary for the timeslot ( just like 
 >the 
 >> >> >> >> >good 
 >> >> >> >old 
 >> >> >> >> >days! ) but that was about it. 
 >> >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> >> Still let us help FP.  The Christians were rotesting 
 >> >> >> >> against  the defamation of religion, namely 
 >> >> >> >> Chritstianity. 
 >> >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> >> I wonder if FP would equate RTD to such a producer. 
 >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> >No. 
 >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> > 
 >> >> >> 
 >> >> >> Why?  AFAIK, the vility in JS is as bad as the innuendo in this 
 >> >season's 
 >> >> > DW. 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > I think you have missed one of the fundamental reasons for my 
 >> >objections. 
 >> >> > Even though I have repeatedly laboured it. 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > The queer/adult stuff bothers me not at all in and of itself. 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > It is the fact that he has hijacked a childrens programme to promote 
 >his 
 >> >> > propaganda. 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > Geddit? 
 >> >> > 
 >> >> > Do I care how many times Fuck is said in an production exclusively 
 >aimed 
 >> >> > at 
 >> >> > adults? 
 >> >> > No. 
 >> >> 
 >> >> Well, I would agree with you if I thought that Dr Who HAD been hijacked 
 >to 
 >> >> promote homosexuality. If there were scenes or character`s that were 
 >> >> actively preaching to the audience that they should become gay than I 
 >> >would 
 >> >> understand your point. But to have a character that was clearly gay but 
 >> >> otherwise perfectly "normal" - what`s the problem? At the end of the 
 >day 
 >> >> someone is either gay or they`re not. Someone could blabber on all day 
 >> >about 
 >> >> the joys and wonder`s of sleeping with another man but at the end of it 
 >> >all 
 >> >> I still wouldn`t fancy another man`s naked arse. This "promote his 
 >> >> propaganda" line you keep using is laughable. 
 >> > 
 >> >It really isn't - as I'm sure you know. He set his stall out very early. 
 >To 
 >> >start with the refuseniks told me I was paranoid or trolling or making 
 >the 
 >> >homosexual references up. 
 >> > 
 >> >Now we have this laughable defence that some characters "just happened" 
 >to 
 >> >be gay. 
 >> > 
 >> >Oh dear. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> So people need to get a grab on subliminal messages. 
 > 
 >It doesn't have to be subliminal. He's working on the basis that any 
 >publicity is good publicity. 
 > 
  
 Any publicity, like accusing CE of stuntcasting? 
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