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 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
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 Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 > 
 >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >news:d97k9r$47c$32@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> In article , 
 >> Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>"Ryan P."  wrote in message 
 >>>news:H0Gte.982$H41.25@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... 
 >>>> Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 >>>>> "Frankymole"  wrote in message 
 >>>>> news:d978fd$vu7$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>Gordon Davie wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>1 -> 2 observed by Ben and Polly 
 >>>>>>>>2 -> 3 No one say the regeneration.  We saw the process starting at 
 >>>>>>>>       the end of War Games.  Plus that nit in the 5 doctors 
 >>>>>>>>3 -> 4 observed by UNIT 
 >>>>>>>>4 -> 5 observed by Pharos guards, Nyssa, Tegan and Adric 
 >>>>>>>>5 -> 6 observed by Peri 
 >>>>>>>>6 -> 7 The Rani spotted it out 
 >>>>>>>>7 -> 8 No one, just a probe to prove it 
 >>>>>>>>8 -> 9 No one just a statement to prove it 
 >>>>>>>>9 -> 10 Witness needed. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>Well, Rose witnessed that one (I'm aware you haven't seen the episode 
 >>>>>>>yet). 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>But how do we know that CE is the *ninth* Doctor? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Because they say so on Confidential. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> That was their opinion. The fact is that we *don't* know CE is the 10th 
 >>>>> Doctor. We assume he is. RTD accepts that he is the 9th Doctor - not 
 >>>>> because the McGann version regenerated into him but because the public 
 >>>>> and the press have already labelled him as such. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Whether our assumptions will ever be confirmed in a future series (it 
 >>>>> certainly wasn't in the series that has just ended) remains to be seen. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>  RTD is the producer... what he says is what is.  For better or for 
 >>>> worse. 
 >>>> How utterly rediculous would it be if, 10 years from now (thinking 
 >>>> positively here) the 12th Doctor is coming to the twilight of his 
 >>>> career, 
 >>>> and suddenly its revealed that, oops, he was really the 13th Doctor! 
 >>> 
 >>>I think you missed the point. RTD has agreed that Eccleston is the 9th 
 >>>Doctor simpy because he is the 9th actor to be associated with the part as 
 >>>far as the general public is concerned. He has *not* stated, or even 
 >>>hinted, 
 >>>that the McGann version regenerated into the Eccleston version. 
 >>> 
 >>>This being the first series from BBC Wales, Eccleston could in fact be the 
 >>>1st Doctor. In fact, RTD may decide that the restriction of 12 
 >>>regenerations 
 >>>is not relevant to his version of Dr Who. 
 >>> 
 >>>We as fans of the 'classic' series are making assumptions that this new 
 >>>series is simply a continuation of it. In general, RTD is neither 
 >>>confirming 
 >>>nor denying our assumptions. He's left such things suitably vague. 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> ALiens of London:  The Doctor mentions knowing UNIT. 
 > 
 >And this proves what, exactly? 
 > 
 > 
  
 This is the 9th Doctor at least. 
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