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  Msg # 322 of 32031 on ZZUK4449, Friday 2-23-23, 4:08  
  From: THE DOCTOR  
  To: STEPHEN WILSON  
  Subj: Re: Was I the only one who thought that   
 XPost: rec.arts.drwho 
 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
 In article , 
 Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 > 
 >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >news:d97k03$47c$27@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> In article , 
 >> Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >>>news:d96ir7$bar$17@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >>>> In article , 
 >>>> greenyammo   wrote: 
 >>>>>L. Ross Raszewski wrote: 
 >>>>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:34 GMT, greenyammo 
 >>>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>Slitheen  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >>>>>>>>>news:d94l7n$sqg$21@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>>>Jeremiah Harbottle  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>Apprentice, Big Brother and American Idol.  Here in the UK it's 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>soaps 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>which 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>Now that'd be a good sight: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>AMS: "RTD, You're fired." 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>Who gets his job? 
 >>>>>>>>>>-- 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>His job aint on offer. A few moaning minnies who can't spot good 
 >>>>>>>>>sci-fi TV 
 >>>>>>>>>when they see it aren't going to push him out of a well deserved, 
 >>>>>>>>>well 
 >>>>>>>>>performed job. :) 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>RTD could be an ego threat to the show if one is not careful. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>I agree. He's already said that he's only going off-world twice in the 
 >>>>>>>new series because staying on planet earth "works". This is lazy, just 
 >>>>>>>because something works it doesn't mean you stick with it. The series 
 >>>>>>>could run it's self into the ground if he sits on his laurels. 
 >>>>>>>RTD scripts always tend to draw out sequences rather than pack the 
 >>>>>>>episodes with invention and plot. An example: in the final episode  he 
 >>>>>>>spent a very long section of the story devoted to getting that panel 
 >>>>>>>pulled off the Tardis when Rose could have just walked in and opened 
 >>>>>>>it 
 >>>>>>>after her "eureka" moment. There was no time limit to this so there 
 >>>>>>>was 
 >>>>>>>no reason to hurry, the sequence wasn't exciting or funny...but.. 
 >>>>>>>there 
 >>>>>>>was a spaceship FULL of thousand's of Dalek's over in the other story. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>What would you rather be watching? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Hm...  A big CGI Dalek armada shooting things, or the resolution to 
 >>>>>> Jackie and Mickey's character arcs, culminating in Rose's revelation 
 >>>>>> to her mother about her dad and Jackie's final decision to help Rose 
 >>>>>> even though it means losing her, in all likelihood forever?  Hm... 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Mindless action sequence...  Character building and growth... This is 
 >>>>>> a tough one... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Doesn't have to be mindless does it though does it? Is anybody out there 
 >>>>>actually interested in Mickey and Rose's mum? Is that why we tune in 
 >>>>>every week? Eastenders does this sort of thing on a far superior level. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>It wasn't the character work or story arc I was complaining about. It 
 >>>>>was the method and delivery of those plot strands and the length RTD 
 >>>>>takes to draw these scenes out. These scenes could have been dealt with 
 >>>>>in another manner entirely and still made room for more sci-fi. 
 >>>>>Let's not go overboard either, RTD writing is not Shakespeare. Trying to 
 >>>>>wring emotional scenes out of cardboard characters is not necessarily a 
 >>>>>good thing. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Still keeping DW to a Doylian quality will help. 
 >>> 
 >>>What's a Doylian quality, what will it help and how? 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> Doyle, as in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 
 > 
 >Yes, I know who Arthur Conan Doyle is. I still don't see what you're saying. 
 >You think Dr Who should be set in the late 1800s? And that he should start 
 >taking drugs? 
 > 
 > 
  
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