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 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
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 Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 > 
 >"Ryan P."  wrote in message 
 >news:H0Gte.982$H41.25@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... 
 >> Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 >>> "Frankymole"  wrote in message 
 >>> news:d978fd$vu7$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... 
 >>> 
 >>>>Gordon Davie wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>1 -> 2 observed by Ben and Polly 
 >>>>>>2 -> 3 No one say the regeneration.  We saw the process starting at 
 >>>>>>       the end of War Games.  Plus that nit in the 5 doctors 
 >>>>>>3 -> 4 observed by UNIT 
 >>>>>>4 -> 5 observed by Pharos guards, Nyssa, Tegan and Adric 
 >>>>>>5 -> 6 observed by Peri 
 >>>>>>6 -> 7 The Rani spotted it out 
 >>>>>>7 -> 8 No one, just a probe to prove it 
 >>>>>>8 -> 9 No one just a statement to prove it 
 >>>>>>9 -> 10 Witness needed. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Well, Rose witnessed that one (I'm aware you haven't seen the episode 
 >>>>>yet). 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>But how do we know that CE is the *ninth* Doctor? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Because they say so on Confidential. 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> That was their opinion. The fact is that we *don't* know CE is the 10th 
 >>> Doctor. We assume he is. RTD accepts that he is the 9th Doctor - not 
 >>> because the McGann version regenerated into him but because the public 
 >>> and the press have already labelled him as such. 
 >>> 
 >>> Whether our assumptions will ever be confirmed in a future series (it 
 >>> certainly wasn't in the series that has just ended) remains to be seen. 
 >> 
 >>  RTD is the producer... what he says is what is.  For better or for worse. 
 >> How utterly rediculous would it be if, 10 years from now (thinking 
 >> positively here) the 12th Doctor is coming to the twilight of his career, 
 >> and suddenly its revealed that, oops, he was really the 13th Doctor! 
 > 
 >I think you missed the point. RTD has agreed that Eccleston is the 9th 
 >Doctor simpy because he is the 9th actor to be associated with the part as 
 >far as the general public is concerned. He has *not* stated, or even hinted, 
 >that the McGann version regenerated into the Eccleston version. 
 > 
 >This being the first series from BBC Wales, Eccleston could in fact be the 
 >1st Doctor. In fact, RTD may decide that the restriction of 12 regenerations 
 >is not relevant to his version of Dr Who. 
 > 
 >We as fans of the 'classic' series are making assumptions that this new 
 >series is simply a continuation of it. In general, RTD is neither confirming 
 >nor denying our assumptions. He's left such things suitably vague. 
 > 
 > 
  
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