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 "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 news:d97jaj$47c$14@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > In article <42b6e7bf$0$292$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 > FairPlay  wrote: 
 > > 
 > >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 > >news:d96j8o$bar$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > >> In article <42b6ba17$0$289$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 > >> FairPlay  wrote: 
 > >> > 
 > >> >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 > >> >news:d94lsn$sqg$37@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > 
 > >> >The gay/unsuitable references, the commercial placements and the 
 > >plagiarisms 
 > >> >were there for all to see. 
 > >> 
 > >> Noted. 
 > > 
 > >Thanks. 
 > > 
 > 
 > You are welcome 
 > 
 > > 
 > >> > 
 > >> >First we had the outraged denials, the accusations that I was 
 trolling. 
 > >Then 
 > >> >episode after episode as the evidence built up we had the 
 somersaulting 
 > >> >denials - then the absurd justifications. 
 > >> 
 > >> Some people buy into the politically correct agenda. 
 > > 
 > >Indeed. 
 > 
 > Such is the current world. 
 > 
 > > 
 > >> > 
 > >> >It really was dumbed down dross. If he wasn't trying to insert his 
 > >political 
 > >> >propaganda it would have just been another BBC production of dumbed 
 down 
 > >> >dross. 
 > >> 
 > >> Are you saying the BBC has been infiltrated by the Politically correct? 
 > > 
 > >Uhm. I think I've said it about 4,000 times. 
 > 
 > Yes would do. 
 > 
 > > 
 > >> > 
 > >> >As it was it was much more insidious than that and quite worrying that 
 he 
 > >> >could get away with it so easily. 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> Write to the BBC and complain. 
 > > 
 > >Why? What good would it do? The BBC is a self-satisfied corporation 
 > >seemingly answerable to no one but itself. It is in the vanguard of 
 > >producing dumbed down TV. Others in positions of influence have 
 complained 
 > >repeatedly over time. Seems to have had no effect on the decay. 
 > > 
 > 
 > 1) Powell was a bully. 
 > 
 > 2) Yentob tried but the Yanks would not play 
 > 
 > 3) Lorraine got  it back, and now is the time for feedback. 
 > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > >> >The "gay" stuff was trailed as were teh kisses and the big brotehr 
 stuff. 
 > >> >RTD knew exactly what he was doing - exploiting the morons and he got 
 > >> >exactly the effect he wanted. Cheap publicity. 
 > >> 
 > >> Again bring this up with the BBC. 
 > > 
 > >Why? What good would it do? 
 > > 
 > 
 > Explain how offended you fell and see if change would happen. 
 > 
 > >> > 
 > >> >It's no surpise the gays/fanboys here lapped it up. 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> Such as it is. 
 > >> 
 > >> >And in a way no surprise the BBC got good ratings ( relatively). They 
 > >hyped 
 > >> >it mercilesly and the public have a lot of goodwill towards the DW 
 > >> >franchise. 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> DW is a success, even when Powell thought it was passe. 
 > > 
 > >I can't deny that it has received *relatively* good viewing figures. 
 Doesn't 
 > >make it a success in my book. 
 > > 
 > 
 > The fans make the show a success. 
 > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > >> >The public have been starved of meaningful, involving storylines in 
 much 
 > >> >mainstream TV so why should DW be different and why would they employ 
 a 
 > >> >critical eye given the above? 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> Critical critique is what it is about. 
 > >> 
 > >> >The whole Bad Wolfe thing? WHat a load of !@#$e. It was nothing really 
 > >was 
 > >> >it! A superficial attempt at some sort of deeper storyline - but 
 anyone 
 > >> >could have though that up on the back of a !@# packet. 
 > >> 
 > >> Well the destruction of Gallifrey? 
 > >> 
 > >> > 
 > >> >The BW references were not integral to the earlier storylines were 
 they? 
 > >> >Just tacked on to give some sort of counterfeit depth and 
 sophistication. 
 > >> >!@#$%^&*. 
 > >> 
 > >> I have yet to see BW/TPotW 
 > > 
 > >Judge by the earlier episodes. 
 > 
 > I prefer to see for myself. 
 > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > >> > 
 > >> >Without the exploitative offal he wallowed in, I would have said the 
 > >series 
 > >> >was simply par for the course average production for the under 14s 
 which 
 > >> >reflects the here and now. It will have absolutely no staying power 
 and 
 > >will 
 > >> >become extremely dated very quickly. 
 > >> 
 > >> Timefor RTD to go on that note. 
 > >> 
 > >> > 
 > >> >Anyone over about 14 who actually got something out of it - execpt for 
 a 
 > >> >cheap and nasty SF fix - I would suggest is either mentally retarded 
 or 
 > >> >queer. 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> You are entitled to your opinion. 
 > >> 
 > >> As for my summary, in 9 to 10 days time. 
 > >> 
 > >> Still, do you rate RTD's participation in DW as good as 
 > >> a producer's stint in the BBC Jerry Springer opera? 
 > >> 
 > > 
 > >Eh? 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > 
 > Repeat, do you think RTD's participation is as good as the producer 
 > who made the Jerry Springer Opera the BBC was about to air? 
  
 Nope - still dont get it. BTW JP was aired in the UK 
  
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