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 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
 In article <42b6e7bf$0$292$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 FairPlay  wrote: 
 > 
 >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >news:d96j8o$bar$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 >> In article <42b6ba17$0$289$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 >> FairPlay  wrote: 
 >> > 
 >> >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 >> >news:d94lsn$sqg$37@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
  
 >> >The gay/unsuitable references, the commercial placements and the 
 >plagiarisms 
 >> >were there for all to see. 
 >> 
 >> Noted. 
 > 
 >Thanks. 
 > 
  
 You are welcome 
  
 > 
 >> > 
 >> >First we had the outraged denials, the accusations that I was trolling. 
 >Then 
 >> >episode after episode as the evidence built up we had the somersaulting 
 >> >denials - then the absurd justifications. 
 >> 
 >> Some people buy into the politically correct agenda. 
 > 
 >Indeed. 
  
 Such is the current world. 
  
 > 
 >> > 
 >> >It really was dumbed down dross. If he wasn't trying to insert his 
 >political 
 >> >propaganda it would have just been another BBC production of dumbed down 
 >> >dross. 
 >> 
 >> Are you saying the BBC has been infiltrated by the Politically correct? 
 > 
 >Uhm. I think I've said it about 4,000 times. 
  
 Yes would do. 
  
 > 
 >> > 
 >> >As it was it was much more insidious than that and quite worrying that he 
 >> >could get away with it so easily. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> Write to the BBC and complain. 
 > 
 >Why? What good would it do? The BBC is a self-satisfied corporation 
 >seemingly answerable to no one but itself. It is in the vanguard of 
 >producing dumbed down TV. Others in positions of influence have complained 
 >repeatedly over time. Seems to have had no effect on the decay. 
 > 
  
 1) Powell was a bully. 
  
 2) Yentob tried but the Yanks would not play 
  
 3) Lorraine got  it back, and now is the time for feedback. 
  
 > 
 > 
 >> >The "gay" stuff was trailed as were teh kisses and the big brotehr stuff. 
 >> >RTD knew exactly what he was doing - exploiting the morons and he got 
 >> >exactly the effect he wanted. Cheap publicity. 
 >> 
 >> Again bring this up with the BBC. 
 > 
 >Why? What good would it do? 
 > 
  
 Explain how offended you fell and see if change would happen. 
  
 >> > 
 >> >It's no surpise the gays/fanboys here lapped it up. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> Such as it is. 
 >> 
 >> >And in a way no surprise the BBC got good ratings ( relatively). They 
 >hyped 
 >> >it mercilesly and the public have a lot of goodwill towards the DW 
 >> >franchise. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> DW is a success, even when Powell thought it was passe. 
 > 
 >I can't deny that it has received *relatively* good viewing figures. Doesn't 
 >make it a success in my book. 
 > 
  
 The fans make the show a success. 
  
 > 
 > 
 >> >The public have been starved of meaningful, involving storylines in much 
 >> >mainstream TV so why should DW be different and why would they employ a 
 >> >critical eye given the above? 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> Critical critique is what it is about. 
 >> 
 >> >The whole Bad Wolfe thing? WHat a load of !@#$e. It was nothing really 
 >was 
 >> >it! A superficial attempt at some sort of deeper storyline - but anyone 
 >> >could have though that up on the back of a !@# packet. 
 >> 
 >> Well the destruction of Gallifrey? 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> >The BW references were not integral to the earlier storylines were they? 
 >> >Just tacked on to give some sort of counterfeit depth and sophistication. 
 >> >!@#$%^&*. 
 >> 
 >> I have yet to see BW/TPotW 
 > 
 >Judge by the earlier episodes. 
  
 I prefer to see for myself. 
  
 > 
 > 
 >> > 
 >> >Without the exploitative offal he wallowed in, I would have said the 
 >series 
 >> >was simply par for the course average production for the under 14s which 
 >> >reflects the here and now. It will have absolutely no staying power and 
 >will 
 >> >become extremely dated very quickly. 
 >> 
 >> Timefor RTD to go on that note. 
 >> 
 >> > 
 >> >Anyone over about 14 who actually got something out of it - execpt for a 
 >> >cheap and nasty SF fix - I would suggest is either mentally retarded or 
 >> >queer. 
 >> > 
 >> 
 >> You are entitled to your opinion. 
 >> 
 >> As for my summary, in 9 to 10 days time. 
 >> 
 >> Still, do you rate RTD's participation in DW as good as 
 >> a producer's stint in the BBC Jerry Springer opera? 
 >> 
 > 
 >Eh? 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
  
 Repeat, do you think RTD's participation is as good as the producer 
 who made the Jerry Springer Opera the BBC was about to air? 
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