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 From: sr.wilson@ntlworld.com 
  
 "Ryan P."  wrote in message 
 news:H0Gte.982$H41.25@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... 
 > Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 >> "Frankymole"  wrote in message 
 >> news:d978fd$vu7$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk... 
 >> 
 >>>Gordon Davie wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>1 -> 2 observed by Ben and Polly 
 >>>>>2 -> 3 No one say the regeneration.  We saw the process starting at 
 >>>>>       the end of War Games.  Plus that nit in the 5 doctors 
 >>>>>3 -> 4 observed by UNIT 
 >>>>>4 -> 5 observed by Pharos guards, Nyssa, Tegan and Adric 
 >>>>>5 -> 6 observed by Peri 
 >>>>>6 -> 7 The Rani spotted it out 
 >>>>>7 -> 8 No one, just a probe to prove it 
 >>>>>8 -> 9 No one just a statement to prove it 
 >>>>>9 -> 10 Witness needed. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Well, Rose witnessed that one (I'm aware you haven't seen the episode 
 >>>>yet). 
 >>>> 
 >>>>But how do we know that CE is the *ninth* Doctor? 
 >>> 
 >>>Because they say so on Confidential. 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> That was their opinion. The fact is that we *don't* know CE is the 10th 
 >> Doctor. We assume he is. RTD accepts that he is the 9th Doctor - not 
 >> because the McGann version regenerated into him but because the public 
 >> and the press have already labelled him as such. 
 >> 
 >> Whether our assumptions will ever be confirmed in a future series (it 
 >> certainly wasn't in the series that has just ended) remains to be seen. 
 > 
 >  RTD is the producer... what he says is what is.  For better or for worse. 
 > How utterly rediculous would it be if, 10 years from now (thinking 
 > positively here) the 12th Doctor is coming to the twilight of his career, 
 > and suddenly its revealed that, oops, he was really the 13th Doctor! 
  
 I think you missed the point. RTD has agreed that Eccleston is the 9th 
 Doctor simpy because he is the 9th actor to be associated with the part as 
 far as the general public is concerned. He has *not* stated, or even hinted, 
 that the McGann version regenerated into the Eccleston version. 
  
 This being the first series from BBC Wales, Eccleston could in fact be the 
 1st Doctor. In fact, RTD may decide that the restriction of 12 regenerations 
 is not relevant to his version of Dr Who. 
  
 We as fans of the 'classic' series are making assumptions that this new 
 series is simply a continuation of it. In general, RTD is neither confirming 
 nor denying our assumptions. He's left such things suitably vague. 
  
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