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  Msg # 31877 of 32031 on ZZUK4449, Friday 2-23-23, 4:04  
  From: FAIRPLAY  
  To: THE DOCTOR  
  Subj: Re: All right Fairplay  
 XPost: rec.arts.drwho 
 From: not@home.com 
  
 "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 news:d96j8o$bar$20@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > In article <42b6ba17$0$289$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, 
 > FairPlay  wrote: 
 > > 
 > >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 > >news:d94lsn$sqg$37@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > >> In article , 
 > >> Ian Salsbury  wrote: 
 > >> > 
 > >> >"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 > >> >news:d92g8o$s8a$6@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
 > >> >> your overall impression of this new DW season. 
 > >> > 
 > >> >I think he`s made his opinions quite clear over the last 13 weeks! 
 > >> > 
 > >> > 
 > >> > 
 > >> 
 > >> Let us a rationale round up, eh? 
 > > 
 > > 
 > >No need. 
 > > 
 > >I stated my concerns after episode 1. 
 > > 
 > >The gay/unsuitable references, the commercial placements and the 
 plagiarisms 
 > >were there for all to see. 
 > 
 > Noted. 
  
 Thanks. 
  
  
 > > 
 > >First we had the outraged denials, the accusations that I was trolling. 
 Then 
 > >episode after episode as the evidence built up we had the somersaulting 
 > >denials - then the absurd justifications. 
 > 
 > Some people buy into the politically correct agenda. 
  
 Indeed. 
  
 > > 
 > >It really was dumbed down dross. If he wasn't trying to insert his 
 political 
 > >propaganda it would have just been another BBC production of dumbed down 
 > >dross. 
 > 
 > Are you saying the BBC has been infiltrated by the Politically correct? 
  
 Uhm. I think I've said it about 4,000 times. 
  
 > > 
 > >As it was it was much more insidious than that and quite worrying that he 
 > >could get away with it so easily. 
 > > 
 > 
 > Write to the BBC and complain. 
  
 Why? What good would it do? The BBC is a self-satisfied corporation 
 seemingly answerable to no one but itself. It is in the vanguard of 
 producing dumbed down TV. Others in positions of influence have complained 
 repeatedly over time. Seems to have had no effect on the decay. 
  
  
  
 > >The "gay" stuff was trailed as were teh kisses and the big brotehr stuff. 
 > >RTD knew exactly what he was doing - exploiting the morons and he got 
 > >exactly the effect he wanted. Cheap publicity. 
 > 
 > Again bring this up with the BBC. 
  
 Why? What good would it do? 
  
 > > 
 > >It's no surpise the gays/fanboys here lapped it up. 
 > > 
 > 
 > Such as it is. 
 > 
 > >And in a way no surprise the BBC got good ratings ( relatively). They 
 hyped 
 > >it mercilesly and the public have a lot of goodwill towards the DW 
 > >franchise. 
 > > 
 > 
 > DW is a success, even when Powell thought it was passe. 
  
 I can't deny that it has received *relatively* good viewing figures. Doesn't 
 make it a success in my book. 
  
  
  
 > >The public have been starved of meaningful, involving storylines in much 
 > >mainstream TV so why should DW be different and why would they employ a 
 > >critical eye given the above? 
 > > 
 > 
 > Critical critique is what it is about. 
 > 
 > >The whole Bad Wolfe thing? WHat a load of !@#$e. It was nothing really 
 was 
 > >it! A superficial attempt at some sort of deeper storyline - but anyone 
 > >could have though that up on the back of a !@# packet. 
 > 
 > Well the destruction of Gallifrey? 
 > 
 > > 
 > >The BW references were not integral to the earlier storylines were they? 
 > >Just tacked on to give some sort of counterfeit depth and sophistication. 
 > >!@#$%^&*. 
 > 
 > I have yet to see BW/TPotW 
  
 Judge by the earlier episodes. 
  
  
 > > 
 > >Without the exploitative offal he wallowed in, I would have said the 
 series 
 > >was simply par for the course average production for the under 14s which 
 > >reflects the here and now. It will have absolutely no staying power and 
 will 
 > >become extremely dated very quickly. 
 > 
 > Timefor RTD to go on that note. 
 > 
 > > 
 > >Anyone over about 14 who actually got something out of it - execpt for a 
 > >cheap and nasty SF fix - I would suggest is either mentally retarded or 
 > >queer. 
 > > 
 > 
 > You are entitled to your opinion. 
 > 
 > As for my summary, in 9 to 10 days time. 
 > 
 > Still, do you rate RTD's participation in DW as good as 
 > a producer's stint in the BBC Jerry Springer opera? 
 > 
  
 Eh? 
  
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