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 From: greenyammo@blueyonder.co.uk 
  
 Stephen Wilson wrote: 
 > "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
 > news:d97k03$47c$27@gallifrey.nk.ca... 
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 >>In article , 
 >>Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >>>>In article , 
 >>>>greenyammo   wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>>L. Ross Raszewski wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:34 GMT, greenyammo 
 >>>>>> wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
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 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>Slitheen  wrote: 
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 >>>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >>>>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>>>Jeremiah Harbottle  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>Apprentice, Big Brother and American Idol.  Here in the UK it's 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>soaps 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>which 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>Now that'd be a good sight: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>AMS: "RTD, You're fired." 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>Who gets his job? 
 >>>>>>>>>>-- 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>His job aint on offer. A few moaning minnies who can't spot good 
 >>>>>>>>>sci-fi TV 
 >>>>>>>>>when they see it aren't going to push him out of a well deserved, 
 >>>>>>>>>well 
 >>>>>>>>>performed job. :) 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>RTD could be an ego threat to the show if one is not careful. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>I agree. He's already said that he's only going off-world twice in the 
 >>>>>>>new series because staying on planet earth "works". This is lazy, just 
 >>>>>>>because something works it doesn't mean you stick with it. The series 
 >>>>>>>could run it's self into the ground if he sits on his laurels. 
 >>>>>>>RTD scripts always tend to draw out sequences rather than pack the 
 >>>>>>>episodes with invention and plot. An example: in the final episode  he 
 >>>>>>>spent a very long section of the story devoted to getting that panel 
 >>>>>>>pulled off the Tardis when Rose could have just walked in and opened 
 >>>>>>>it 
 >>>>>>>after her "eureka" moment. There was no time limit to this so there 
 >>>>>>>was 
 >>>>>>>no reason to hurry, the sequence wasn't exciting or funny...but.. 
 >>>>>>>there 
 >>>>>>>was a spaceship FULL of thousand's of Dalek's over in the other story. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>What would you rather be watching? 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Hm...  A big CGI Dalek armada shooting things, or the resolution to 
 >>>>>>Jackie and Mickey's character arcs, culminating in Rose's revelation 
 >>>>>>to her mother about her dad and Jackie's final decision to help Rose 
 >>>>>>even though it means losing her, in all likelihood forever?  Hm... 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Mindless action sequence...  Character building and growth... This is 
 >>>>>>a tough one... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>Doesn't have to be mindless does it though does it? Is anybody out there 
 >>>>>actually interested in Mickey and Rose's mum? Is that why we tune in 
 >>>>>every week? Eastenders does this sort of thing on a far superior level. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>It wasn't the character work or story arc I was complaining about. It 
 >>>>>was the method and delivery of those plot strands and the length RTD 
 >>>>>takes to draw these scenes out. These scenes could have been dealt with 
 >>>>>in another manner entirely and still made room for more sci-fi. 
 >>>>>Let's not go overboard either, RTD writing is not Shakespeare. Trying to 
 >>>>>wring emotional scenes out of cardboard characters is not necessarily a 
 >>>>>good thing. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Still keeping DW to a Doylian quality will help. 
 >>> 
 >>>What's a Doylian quality, what will it help and how? 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >>Doyle, as in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 
 > 
 > 
 > Yes, I know who Arthur Conan Doyle is. I still don't see what you're 
 saying. 
 > You think Dr Who should be set in the late 1800s? And that he should start 
 > taking drugs? 
 > 
 > 
 I Think he means keeping it in the Sherlock Holmes mould in which DR WHO 
 fits comfortably. 
 An incredibly intelligent man accompanied by an assistant who figures 
 out complicated situations (involving deaths along the way). 
  
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