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 From: sr.wilson@ntlworld.com 
  
 "The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 > In article , 
 > Stephen Wilson  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >>> In article , 
 >>> greenyammo   wrote: 
 >>>>L. Ross Raszewski wrote: 
 >>>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:27:34 GMT, greenyammo 
 >>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>The Doctor wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>Slitheen  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>"The Doctor"  wrote in message 
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 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>>>>>Jeremiah Harbottle  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>Apprentice, Big Brother and American Idol.  Here in the UK it's 
 >>>>>>>>>>>soaps 
 >>>>>>>>>>>which 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>Now that'd be a good sight: 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>AMS: "RTD, You're fired." 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>Who gets his job? 
 >>>>>>>>>-- 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>His job aint on offer. A few moaning minnies who can't spot good 
 >>>>>>>>sci-fi TV 
 >>>>>>>>when they see it aren't going to push him out of a well deserved, 
 >>>>>>>>well 
 >>>>>>>>performed job. :) 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>RTD could be an ego threat to the show if one is not careful. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>I agree. He's already said that he's only going off-world twice in the 
 >>>>>>new series because staying on planet earth "works". This is lazy, just 
 >>>>>>because something works it doesn't mean you stick with it. The series 
 >>>>>>could run it's self into the ground if he sits on his laurels. 
 >>>>>>RTD scripts always tend to draw out sequences rather than pack the 
 >>>>>>episodes with invention and plot. An example: in the final episode  he 
 >>>>>>spent a very long section of the story devoted to getting that panel 
 >>>>>>pulled off the Tardis when Rose could have just walked in and opened 
 >>>>>>it 
 >>>>>>after her "eureka" moment. There was no time limit to this so there 
 >>>>>>was 
 >>>>>>no reason to hurry, the sequence wasn't exciting or funny...but.. 
 >>>>>>there 
 >>>>>>was a spaceship FULL of thousand's of Dalek's over in the other story. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>What would you rather be watching? 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Hm...  A big CGI Dalek armada shooting things, or the resolution to 
 >>>>> Jackie and Mickey's character arcs, culminating in Rose's revelation 
 >>>>> to her mother about her dad and Jackie's final decision to help Rose 
 >>>>> even though it means losing her, in all likelihood forever?  Hm... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Mindless action sequence...  Character building and growth... This is 
 >>>>> a tough one... 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Doesn't have to be mindless does it though does it? Is anybody out there 
 >>>>actually interested in Mickey and Rose's mum? Is that why we tune in 
 >>>>every week? Eastenders does this sort of thing on a far superior level. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>It wasn't the character work or story arc I was complaining about. It 
 >>>>was the method and delivery of those plot strands and the length RTD 
 >>>>takes to draw these scenes out. These scenes could have been dealt with 
 >>>>in another manner entirely and still made room for more sci-fi. 
 >>>>Let's not go overboard either, RTD writing is not Shakespeare. Trying to 
 >>>>wring emotional scenes out of cardboard characters is not necessarily a 
 >>>>good thing. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>> 
 >>> Still keeping DW to a Doylian quality will help. 
 >> 
 >>What's a Doylian quality, what will it help and how? 
 >> 
 >> 
 > 
 > Doyle, as in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. 
  
 Yes, I know who Arthur Conan Doyle is. I still don't see what you're saying. 
 You think Dr Who should be set in the late 1800s? And that he should start 
 taking drugs? 
  
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