From: nikemc@nildram.REMOVE.co.THIS.uk.TEXT 
  
 > He is a big Dr Who fan, but dosn't like many Sc-Fi programs. If Sc-Fi 
 > means stories which are devoid of humanity, just long spiels of 
 > techno-babel in it's place, then he has every right to dislike them. 
  
 You've obviously not read (Or seen) much SF. I'm currently reading a Larry 
 Niven book which has virtually no long scenes of techno babble and has 
 plenty of relationships between the characters. 
  
 Of course, a few minutes of characters sitting in a cafe discussing their 
 problems makes it full of humanity. 
  
 > The problem is that that's exactly what the most succesful sc-fi 
 > franchise, Star Trek, is about for most of the time. 
  
 I seem to recall that most of Star Trek was driven by characters, and Techno 
 Babble was convenient 
  
 > I think he find the new Star Wars movies fantastic, all that romance and 
 > agnst, and very little techno-babel. Just a story driven by human emotion 
 > which could have formed the basis of a greek tradegy or a play by 
 > Shakespear. 
  
 Have you seen "Sith"? It's an absolute piece of shit. Dreadful story, 
 dreadful dialogue and long, tedious special effects scenes that are rather 
 lacking in imagination. 
  
 It's driven by nothing - the motivation for the evil turn by the wooden 
 actor doesn't even make sense. 
  
  
 > It would be interesting to know if those who dislike RTD's Dr prefer Star 
 > Wars, or Star Trek! 
  
 Don't like either, actually (Apart from the Star Trek movies 1-7) 
  
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