From: inv@lid.com 
  
 On 27/08/2025 17:52, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 > On 27 Aug 2025 at 17:00:35 BST, "Brian"  wrote: 
 > 
 >> Roger Hayter  wrote: 
 >>> On 27 Aug 2025 at 16:22:48 BST, "Brian"  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> Jon Ribbens  wrote: 
 >>>>> On 2025-08-25, Brian  wrote: 
 >>>>>> Jon Ribbens  wrote: 
 >>>>>>> We don't know what her licence conditions are though. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> I guess profiting from the media due to notoriety from committing 
 >>>>>>> a crime is too indirect to come under the Proceeds of Crime Act. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> While you may think that, there are countless examples of criminals 
 giving 
 >>>>>> interviews, writing books, making films, €€€.. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I don€€€t recall any being prosecuted or having proceeds seized. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> So... you're agreeing with me then? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The Connolly case is different to, say, a bank robber keeping the money. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> She is, as far as I can tell, commenting on: 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Her treatment in jail. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The €€€Two tier€€€ aspects of her ( and other) cases. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> The €€€emotions€€€ stirred up by the murders. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Plus, of course, a subsequent official inquiry has concluded that there 
 was 
 >>>> no evidence of €€€far right€€€ influence / agitation in any of the 
 >>>> disturbances, contrary to Starmer€€€s and other claims at the time. 
 >>> 
 >>> I should be truly fascinated if you have any further details of the 
 nature 
 or 
 >>> findings fo that "official enquiry" you mention. 
 >>> 
 >> 
 >> https://hmicfrs.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/publication-html/ 
 olice-response-to-public-disorder-in-july-and-august-2024-tranche-2/ 
 > 
 > That's useful. It does tend to confirm the role amateur agitators like 
 > Connolly actually had in whipping up the violence and hatred, rather than 
 > professional propagandists. 
  
 Connolly is hardly an 'amateur agitator', although she will probably 
 rise to become someone with 'influence', if only in the short term. 
  
 >Though they seem to have not examined private 
 > communications rather than social media, so I am not sure how they can say 
 > that violent political organisations didn't play a part as well. 
 > 
  
 It is far more likely comments from politicians and police etc labeling 
 ordinary people 'far right' caused problems.  Most of the problems 
 happened in areas which wouldn't have voted remotely right of centre in 
 decades*. You will note the report is clear, those 'protesting' were 
 locals. 
  
 * although that may well change in the future. 
  
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