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 On 04/11/2025 09:45, The Todal wrote: 
 > On 03/11/2025 18:19, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >> On Mon, 3 Nov 2025 11:40:44 +0000, The Todal  
 >> wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> You discount the possibility that Andrew might be suicidal, which is no 
 >>> doubt in tune with the public mood. Your theory that if he takes long 
 >>> walks in the grounds of his estate and in the woods it will make him 
 >>> feel less suicidal, is rather fatuous. 
 >> 
 >> I'm not entirely discounting it. But I do think it's unlikely. I haven't 
 >> seen any suggestion of it in the media, and he doesn't strike me as being 
 >> the kind of personality to suffer from that particular form of mental 
 >> ill-health. 
 > 
 > You believe you know him well? Based on the video footage on TV and the 
 > numerous hatchet jobs in our popular press? 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >> 
 >>> Reminds me of Piers Morgan 
 >>> declaring that he doesn't believe that Meghan has ever been suicidal and 
 >>> in fact doesn't believe one word that comes out of her mouth. Being 
 >>> strong and resolute and unsympathetic to others has probably worked well 
 >>> for Piers and his career. Reminds me too of Charles expressing 
 >>> impatience and annoyance when Diana threw herself down a flight of 
 >>> stairs. To him, it was "merely" attention seeking. 
 >> 
 >> Well, it probably was. 
 >> 
 > 
 > Sometimes a miserable wife who can see her husband openly expressing 
 > love and attention towards his old flame, does indeed crave "attention". 
 > Or love, or compassion, or decent behaviour. 
 > 
 > Prince Charles behaved like a cunt.  Like Andrew, he was brought up to 
 > think only of his own needs and to disregard the feelings of others. Of 
 > course, it's all forgotten and forgiven now. The prince and his beloved 
 > princess lived happily ever after and are now King and Queen. But let's 
 > not pretend that he is morally superior to Andrew. 
 > 
 > Quotes 
 > 
 > I threw myself down the stairs [at Sandringham]. Charles said I was 
 > crying wolf and I said I felt so desperate and I was crying my eyes out 
 > and he said: ‘I’m not going to listen. You’re always doing this to 
 me. 
 > I’m going riding now.’ So I threw myself down the stairs. The Queen 
 > comes out, absolutely horrified, shaking – she was so frightened. I knew 
 > I wasn’t going to lose the baby; quite bruised around the stomach. 
 > Charles went out riding and when he came back, you know, it was just 
 > dismissal, total dismissal. He just carried on out of the door. 
 > 
 > Anyway; going back to Camilla. She said to me: ‘You’ve got everything 
 > you ever wanted. You’ve got all the men in the world falling in love 
 > with you, and you’ve got two beautiful children. 
 > 
 > I said to Camilla: ‘I’m sorry I’m in the way, I obviously am in the 
 way 
 > and it must be hell for both of you, but I do know what is going on. 
 > Don’t treat me like an idiot.’ So I went upstairs and people began to 
 > disperse. In the car on the way back my husband was over me like a bad 
 > rash and I cried like I have never cried before – it was anger, it was 
 > seven years’ pent-up anger coming out. 
 > 
  
 And there is some evidence that as a schoolboy Charles felt suicidal at 
 times, but I suppose the received wisdom is that this toughened him up 
 and made him more resilient especially when witnessing the misery of his 
 wife and sons, and his desire to put his own needs first. 
  
 quote (from "Spare") 
  
 Pa confessed around this time that he’d been “persecuted” as a boy. 
 Granny and Grandpa, to toughen him up, had shipped him off to 
 Gordonstoun, a boarding school, where he was horrendously bullied. The 
 most likely victims of Gordonstoun bullies, he said, were creative 
 types, sensitive types, bookish types – in other words, Pa. His finest 
 qualities were bait for the toughs. I remember him murmuring ominously: 
 I nearly didn’t survive. How had he? Head down, clutching his teddy 
 bear, which he still owned years later. Teddy went everywhere with Pa. 
 It was a pitiful object, with broken arms and dangly threads, holes 
 patched up here and there. It looked, I imagined, like Pa might have 
 after the bullies had finished with him. Teddy expressed eloquently, 
 better than Pa ever could, the essential loneliness of his childhood. 
  
 Pa deserved a proper companion. That was why, when asked, Willy and I 
 promised Pa that we’d welcome Camilla into the family. The only thing we 
 asked in return was that he not marry her. You don’t need to remarry, we 
 pleaded. A wedding would cause controversy. It would incite the press. 
 It would make the whole country, the whole world, talk about Mummy, 
  
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