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  Msg # 54 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Saturday 8-29-25, 12:40  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: BRIAN  
  Subj: Re: Lucy Connolly's martyrdom  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 27/08/2025 05:00 PM, Brian wrote: 
 > Roger Hayter  wrote: 
 >> On 27 Aug 2025 at 16:22:48 BST, "Brian"  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> Jon Ribbens  wrote: 
 >>>> On 2025-08-25, Brian  wrote: 
 >>>>> Jon Ribbens  wrote: 
 >>>>>> We don't know what her licence conditions are though. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I guess profiting from the media due to notoriety from committing 
 >>>>>> a crime is too indirect to come under the Proceeds of Crime Act. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> While you may think that, there are countless examples of criminals 
 giving 
 >>>>> interviews, writing books, making films, €€€.. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> I don€€€t recall any being prosecuted or having proceeds seized. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> So... you're agreeing with me then? 
 >>>> 
 >>> 
 >>> The Connolly case is different to, say, a bank robber keeping the money. 
 >>> 
 >>> She is, as far as I can tell, commenting on: 
 >>> 
 >>> Her treatment in jail. 
 >>> 
 >>> The €€€Two tier€€€ aspects of her ( and other) cases. 
 >>> 
 >>> The €€€emotions€€€ stirred up by the murders. 
 >>> 
 >>> Plus, of course, a subsequent official inquiry has concluded that there 
 was 
 >>> no evidence of €€€far right€€€ influence / agitation in any of the 
 >>> disturbances, contrary to Starmer€€€s and other claims at the time. 
 >> 
 >> I should be truly fascinated if you have any further details of the nature 
 or 
 >> findings fo that "official enquiry" you mention. 
 >> 
 > 
 > https://hmicfrs.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/publication-html/p 
 lice-response-to-public-disorder-in-july-and-august-2024-tranche-2/ 
  
 QUOTE: 
 During our inspection, we found no conclusive or compelling evidence 
 that the 2024 disorder was deliberately premeditated and co-ordinated by 
 any specific group or network. Most people who took part in the disorder 
 lived locally. Before the 2024 disorder, many of them hadn€€€t been 
 convicted of disorder-related offences. The police arrested 147 
 children, some as young as 11 years old. The oldest person arrested and 
 convicted for assault was a man aged 81. The events that led to their 
 arrests mainly involved public expressions of disaffection, online and 
 on the streets of UK towns and cities. The murders of three young girls 
 in Southport triggered these events. But they turned into widespread and 
 often serious disorder because of many other complex factors. 
 ENDQUOTE 
  
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