From: jnugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 30/08/2025 06:56, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 > On 2025-08-29, Spike  wrote: 
 >> Jon Ribbens  wrote: 
 >>> On 2025-08-29, Spike  wrote: 
 >>>> Briefly, he€€€s from Somalia, and fled when he was being pressed into 
 >>>> service with his local terrorist group. He went to Turkey. It€€€s not 
 >>>> clear how long he was there, or what happened. 
 >>> ... 
 >>>> To my mind, the EU seems to take a very pragmatic approach to the 
 >>>> economic migrant issue, only being concerned with why he left the 
 >>>> previous safe country. Couldn€€€t we do that here? 
 >>> 
 >>> Why are you talking about economic migrants, when by your own 
 >>> description he is not an economic migrant? 
 >> 
 >> Then what sort of migrant is he, having left safe country after safe 
 >> country? He isn€€€t being pursued by anyone or threatened in the countries 
 >> that he has stayed in, asylum as such doesn€€€t enter in to it. 
 > 
 > I'm only going by what you said, which is that you don't know why he 
 > left Turkey but his applications for asylum in subsequent countries were 
 > rejected, so presumably he was forced to move on. 
  
 Who "forced" him (to do that)? 
  
 > Having found no asylum, 
 > he is still an asylum seeker by definition. 
  
 But not a refugee within the United Nations' definition. 
  
 On your basis (his having been refused n times, where n is a number at 
 least 1 less than the entire number of sovereign states on the planet), 
 he will always be an asylum seeker for as long as he chooses to be. That 
 does not place duties on third parties to agree with him, or to agree 
 with you. 
  
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