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  Msg # 41 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Saturday 8-22-25, 12:39  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: ALL  
  Subj: Re: Ricky Jones...  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 21/08/2025 12:31 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 > On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:52:13 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 > 
 >> On 20/08/2025 05:21 PM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 15:01:13 +0100, JNugent wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 20/08/2025 09:15 AM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>>>> On 20 Aug 2025 at 01:28:13 BST, "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> On 19/08/2025 07:40 PM, GB wrote: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> On 19/08/2025 13:13, Norman Wells wrote: 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> No, that leaves trophy scars that can be shown off to mates and 
 >>>>>>>> maybe garner sympathy and a backlash against 'state brutality'. 
 >>>>>>>> Tasering doesn't. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Tasering kills and injures occasionally. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> "At least 49 people died in 2018 in the US after being shocked by 
 >>>>>>> police with a Taser." 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> If the police had resorted to use of s service issue Glock, more 
 >>>>>> than those 48 would be dead. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> The answer in all cases, of course, is: 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> "Don't give the police any hassle, resistance or threat of violence, 
 >>>>>> whether to the officer or anyone else. Surrender immediately when 
 >>>>>> arrested and behave yourself". 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> And, of course, try not to be mentally ill; or scared. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> If one IS scared, that sounds like even more reason not to fight, 
 >>>> resist or threaten. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I'm sure you agree. 
 >>> 
 >>> You left out running away. Which a lot of people might do when 
 >>> scared... 
 >> 
 >> ...and which is very definitely not advisable when being arrested. 
 >> 
 >> I'm sure you agree. 
 > 
 > Oh quite. 
 > 
 > By definition part of a nation state is a monopoly on violence... 
  
 ...where necessary. 
 > 
  
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