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 On 02/11/2025 13:31, Serena Blanchflower wrote: 
 > On 29/10/2025 11:32, Martin Brown wrote: 
 >> My other suggestion is an oak tree - the larger the better. 
 > 
 > Some years ago, planning permission was requested, and granted, to build 
 > some houses on a small triangle of land which regularly had cars landing 
 > in the trees, having ignored the chevrons alerting them to the corner. 
 > IIRC, one condition of the planning permission was a requirement for a 
 > fairly broad area of shrubbery, in order to catch any future cars. 
 > 
 > As this was a dozen or more years ago and I've moved away in the 
 > interim, I don't know if this has been sufficient to prevent serious 
 > problems.  In that case, it's also possible that the houses made it more 
 > obvious to drivers that they needed to slow down and take the corner. 
  
 Nothing actually works :( Some drivers are utterly clueless muppets. 
 Driving too fast and completely out of control on sharp bends. 
  
 They add another chevron for each extra vehicle that crashes ;-) 
  
 This weekend one coming off on the north bound exit totalled the central 
 lane divider keep left sign and then annihilated their car on the field 
 boundary fence after failing to take the other bend. 
  
 There is no garden it it just a normal 6" field corner boundary post 
 which to take the asymmetric strain of tensioned barbed wire is braced 
 and rather more substantial than a normal 4" post. Car is a write off. 
  
 Car safety systems have clearly improved a lot. In the past making that 
 particular mistake has proved lethal to the driver. 
  
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 Martin Brown 
  
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