From: roland@perry.uk 
  
 In message , at 18:07:41 on Sun, 7 Sep 
 2025, Spike  remarked: 
  
 >>> The problem, which we are all aware of despite repeated mentions of how 
 >>> the WWII version 
 > 
 >> Which were introduced lest we forget, when there was an actual fucking 
 >> war on. 
 > 
 >Actually, it was introduced before the shooting started. 
 > 
 >And€€€there€€€s a war on Europe€€€s borders, in case you hadn€€€t noticed. 
  
 This is not intended to be a counter-example, but I have my late Uncle's 
 National ID card, and it was issued in 1946, reissued in 1952 when he 
 bought the bungalow he lived in the rest of his life. He could have had 
 a previous card of course, that's been lost (or more likely handed in 
 when he was issued with the 1946 one). 
 -- 
 Roland Perry 
  
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