From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 29/08/2025 07:54 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: 
  
 > On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 15:16:32 +0100, JNugent  wrote: 
 >> On 28/08/2025 01:27 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 >>> On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 00:47:34 +0100, JNugent  wrote: 
 > 
 >>>> Is that why they default on fines - so that they may be punished more 
 >>>> harshly? 
 > 
 >>> Fines are income. Every other form of punishment costs money to impose. 
 > 
 >> Yes... and? 
 > 
 > And that's why the criminal justice system defaults to fines. 
  
 Well, there's that. 
  
 And there's also the distress / punishment / suffering caused by the 
 financial distress implicit within a fine. 
  
 The trouble with your approach is that you are in danger of arguing for 
 fines only for people who manage their affairs so as to be able to pay 
 fines and "community punishment" for those who aren't, with your further 
 assertion that community punishment hurts more than a fine. 
  
 I suggest that the latter statement is not as convincing as you seem to 
 think it ought to be. 
  
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