From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 20/09/2025 04:33 PM, Norman Wells wrote: 
 > On 20/09/2025 12:50, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 20/09/2025 10:17 AM, Jethro_uk wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:54:15 +0100, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>> "Norman Wells"  wrote: 
 >> 
 >>>>> [quoted text muted] 
 >>> 
 >>>> Advertising doesn't necessarily involve commerce. Political advertising 
 >>>> being one obvious example. 
 >>> 
 >>> Political advertising is intended both directly and indirectly to raise 
 >>> revenue. 
 >> 
 >> Some of it is. But not usually to the general public; only to party 
 >> members. 
 >> 
 >> The bit that is seen by the general public (eg, on roadside 
 >> advertising hardings) is invariably merely seeking votes. 
 >> 
 >>> If that isn't advertising, what is ? 
 >> 
 >> Yes, adverts seeking votes do count as advertising. 
 > 
 > I detect a certain circularity in that argument that renders it 
 > completely unconvincing.  Of course an 'advert' counts as advertising. 
 > How could it not? 
  
 Perhaps I could have made it clearer that said adverts would not be 
 seeking trade, custom or financial transaction and would therefore not 
 be "commercial" (a word which is not a synonym for "advertisement"). 
 > 
 >> The word itself only means "publicise". That is certainly how 
 >> Shakespeare used it (eg, in "Twelfth Night"). I seriously doubt that 
 >> the concept of commercial advertising was even in existence at the 
 >> time*; it was used simply to mean "inform", "declare", or other words 
 >> to the same effect. 
 > 
 > Your having to revert to Shakespearean English shows the weakness of 
 > your argument.  What's wrong with current dictionaries? 
  
 Nothing. Have a look. It's all there. 
  
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