From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 20/09/2025 07:00 AM, Norman Wells wrote: 
  
 > On 20/09/2025 01:30, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 19/09/2025 10:11 PM, Norman Wells wrote: 
 >>> On 19/09/2025 20:00, Mark Goodge wrote: 
 > 
 >>>> If someone doesn't comply with an order to remedy a breach of planning 
 >>>> regulations then they can be prosecuted. 
 > 
 >>> The question is whether any such regulations are actually being 
 >>> breached. 
 > 
 >>> A secondary question is what remedies are or should be available to 
 >>> those who try to curtail such activities on no grounds whatsoever. 
 > 
 >> The police or local authorities need remedies against their own 
 >> actions, you say? 
  
 > No.  *We* need protection from over-reach by the police and any other 
 > authorities who, increasingly it seems, jump in with both feet in order 
 > to stop anything they feel should be illegal without reasonable 
 > consideration of whether it in fact is.  And then of course claim they 
 > acted in good faith when it is increasingly apparent they didn't. 
  
 OK. So it was a typo. 
  
 You meant to say: 
  
 "A secondary question is what remedies are or should be available to 
 citizens seeking to act against those who try to curtail such activities 
 on no grounds whatsoever" (or words to that effect). 
 > 
 > *We* need appropriate remedies to stop it or our civil liberties will 
 > continue to be eroded. 
  
 Are my civil liberties really eroded by the power of the police to 
 arrest people for conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace? 
  
 All I can say is that it has never happened to me and I think I know why 
 that is. So do you. 
  
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