From: billy@anon.com 
  
 "Norman Wells"  wrote in message 
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 > On 21/09/2025 10:22, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >> "Norman Wells"  wrote in message 
 >> news:mj8omjF3m7rU9@mid.individual.net... 
 >>> On 20/09/2025 20:49, billy bookcase wrote: 
 >>>> "Norman Wells"  wrote in message 
 >>>> news:mj5v8hFk732U1@mid.individual.net... 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> But you're wrong.  You see, for the natural meaning of words in the 
 English 
 >>>>> language, 
 >>>>> you need to consult what are called dictionaries. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Whereupon you will discover that they all say an advertisement means 
 something 
 >>>>> along 
 >>>>> the lines of: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> "a picture, short film, song, etc. that tries to persuade people to buy 
 a product 
 >>>>> or 
 >>>>> service" 
 >>>> 
 >>>> " Clunk Click Every Trip 1" 
 >>> 
 >>> That was what was invariably referred to as a public information film, 
 not 
 any sort 
 >>> of 
 >>> 'advertisement', which I don't think it was. 
 >>> 
 >>> If you disagree, why? 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Had Jimmy Savile only said "Clunk Click Every Trip" to the children and 
 young 
 >> teenagers ( no corpses presumably ) he took for rides in his Rolls Royce, 
 then 
 >> nobody else would ever have heard the phrase. 
 >> 
 >> Or at least not until 30 or 40 years later 
 >> 
 >> No; it was necessary to "advertise" the phrase; in order to present that 
 >> information to large numbers of people. 
 > 
 > Dissemination of information or advice is not necessarily an 
 'advertisement'. 
 > Otherwise any factual TV programme or newspaper would be pure advertisement 
 and 
 > presumably require local authority consent, which of course they aren't and 
 don't. 
  
 Why would TV programmes or newspaper articles ever require local authority 
 consent ? 
  
 Do normal newspaper ads or TV commercials require local authority consenr ? 
  
 > 
 > Have you ever heard of public information films being referred to as 
 'advertisements'? 
 > If so, where? 
  
 The Advertising Association 
  
 https://adassoc.org.uk/credos/government-advertising/ 
  
 .The National Audit Office 
  
 https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2003/04/gov_advertising.pdf 
  
  
 Except for prestige advertising which is a bit more complicated all 
 advertising 
 of whatver kind is intended as a direct "call to action"; to persuade its 
 audience 
 to behave in a specifiv way. Maybe "buy this" or invest your savings here" 
 but 
 equally "clunk click", ir "Dig for Victory", or "Follow the green Cross 
 Code" 
  
  
  
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