From: noinv@lid.org 
  
 Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote: 
 > On 16/09/2025 18:23, Jeff Gaines wrote: 
 >> 
 >> The Public Office (Accountability) Bill €€€ otherwise known as the 
 >> Hillsborough Law €€€ was introduced to Parliament today (16 September 
 >> 2025) and places a new legal duty on public servants to act truthfully 
 >> and fully support investigations into the state, ensuring wrongdoing is 
 >> not concealed and delivering justice for victims. 
 > 
 > I was somewhat surprised that this is even necessary. Or more to the 
 > point it will be ineffective unless and until the miscreants are found out. 
 > 
 > Surely the provisions of perjury are already sufficient to prosecute 
 > those who lie to the court and deliberately falsify evidence. 
 > 
 > It takes about half a century for ordinary people to obtain justice when 
 > the state screws up and allows major disasters to happen. The same 
 > timescale will likely hold for the Grenfell Tower fire. 
  
 The Grenfell inquiry isn€€€t about finding the truth, it is about covering 
 up 
 a number misdeeds: 
  
 Fraudulent subletting- leading to confusing to how many people inside. 
 The source of the fire and why it wasn€€€t put out  before it spread. 
 Why fire engines couldn€€€t gain access- illegal parking. 
 The MASSIVE fraudulent claims for compensation 
  
 But no, there must be a victim narrative. Even for fake victims. 
  
  The same happened when the Hillsborough inquiry was repeated. Had fans 
 without tickets not tried to force their way into the ground, there would 
 have been no crush. Had fans not caused problems in the past, there 
 wouldn€€€t have been fences.  But that didn€€€t fit the victim narrative. 
  
 > 
 >> Yes you read that right, we need legislation so that officials know they 
 >> must tell the truth. 
 >> 
 >> What is this country coming to. 
 > 
 > It has always been like that. Remember Spycatcher? 
  
 I€€€m always amazed people credit Spycatcher with being more than the 
 ramblings of a bitter failure. 
  
 > 
 > "Being economical with the truth" became a catch phrase after that. 
 > 
  
 Sadly, we don€€€t punish Civil Servants, Politicians for dishonesty - at 
 least not usually. In most cases they may be €€€banished€€€ for a short 
 time, 
 only to emerge in a new, often better, role. 
  
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