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  Msg # 205 of 12811 on ZZUK4448, Sunday 9-06-25, 1:04  
  From: JNUGENT  
  To: THE TODAL  
  Subj: Re: Disingenuous police ?  
 From: JNugent73@mail.com 
  
 On 05/09/2025 02:12 PM, The Todal wrote: 
 > On 05/09/2025 11:45, JNugent wrote: 
 >> On 05/09/2025 09:56 AM, Roger Hayter wrote: 
 >>> On 4 Sep 2025 at 23:28:00 BST, "JNugent"  wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>> On 04/09/2025 11:07 PM, The Todal wrote: 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> On 04/09/2025 12:14, JNugent wrote: 
 >>>>>> On 04/09/2025 11:45 AM, Jon Ribbens wrote: 
 >>>>>>> On 2025-09-04, Clive Page  wrote: 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> One can see that if you are police officer it's a much more 
 >>>>>>>> exciting 
 >>>>>>>> way to spend your day dashing onto the runway at Heathrow in a car 
 >>>>>>>> with blue lights flashing along with four colleagues all 
 >>>>>>>> brandishing 
 >>>>>>>> guns than trying to investigating a real crime, which might, for 
 >>>>>>>> example, involve watching a lot of boring CCTV footage.  So one 
 >>>>>>>> can see their point of view, it's just not something that most of 
 >>>>>>>> the public would support. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>>> Did any of that actually happen, or did you make it up? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>> You haven't been following the news, then? 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Can anyone quote the post that Mr Linehan made, that attracted the 
 >>>>> attention of the police? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Not I, and that's for certain. It was on Twitter / X, wasn't it? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Does anyone actually take any notice of it? 
 >>>> 
 >>>> As for the man himself, I am not much of a fan. Well, except for 
 >>>> "The IT 
 >>>> Crowd", which sounded as though it was written by an adult with a sense 
 >>>> of humour, as opposed to "Father Ted" which can only have been written 
 >>>> by a precocious 13 year old who thought that using swear words made any 
 >>>> old tripe into something funny. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> The fact that he's famous or a comedy writer isn't really relevant. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>> It shouldn't be. But one can hardly overlook the possibility that it 
 >>>> definitely was not irrelevant in this particular case. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> If he was taunting or harassing a specific trans person, he fully 
 >>>>> deserves to be arrested and questioned > 
 >>>> 
 >>>> Does he? Is what you say he did worse than "taunting or harassing" 
 >>>> anyone else? 
 >>>> 
 >>>>> - whether he has committed an offence is for the CPS to judge. 
 >>>> 
 >>>> I'm sure your typing of "CPS" was a muscle memory typo for "jury". 
 >>> 
 >>> If the CPS doesn't think he has committed an offence it won't ever 
 >>> get to a 
 >>> court. 
 >> 
 >> That is not their test. They authorise a charge if it is in the public 
 >> interest and if they think that there is a better than 50% chance of 
 >> getting a conviction. 
 >> 
 >> But the first part of that test is what would be more important here. 
 >> 
 >> In what way would it ever be in the public interest to elevate an 
 >> argument into a criminal matter? 
 >> 
 > 
 > Did you know that there exists a criminal offence of harassment? 
  
 Yes. 
 > 
 > https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents 
 > 
 And? 
  
 Is an argument an act of harrassment? 
  
 Are you harrassing me right now (or I you)? 
  
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